Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:51
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
DMV is the capital of Student Athletes
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:50
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
The gulf in the classroom at these Ivies is now HUGE in 2025. You have kids (mine and other from high performing privates/publics) who are doing next to no work and getting perfect grades and others who are really, really struggling. It's striking. Ask any kid who is a freshman at one.
My son isn’t seeing that. His course sizes are small and every kid he meets is highly intelligent (per him). He loves it. Catholic school kid- very prepared for the rigor- won a departmental award 1st year. Maybe they aren’t taking the sane courses- but he’s not seeing what you describe.
+1 and certainly not seeing everyone getting all As. Grading isn’t cake anymore. They work hard.
People just make sh@t up on this board like it’s gospel.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:46
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
The gulf in the classroom at these Ivies is now HUGE in 2025. You have kids (mine and other from high performing privates/publics) who are doing next to no work and getting perfect grades and others who are really, really struggling. It's striking. Ask any kid who is a freshman at one.
My son isn’t seeing that. His course sizes are small and every kid he meets is highly intelligent (per him). He loves it. Catholic school kid- very prepared for the rigor- won a departmental award 1st year. Maybe they aren’t taking the sane courses- but he’s not seeing what you describe.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:44
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Lots of limousine liberals from $65 private high schools gaming the system-
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:43
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
The gulf in the classroom at these Ivies is now HUGE in 2025. You have kids (mine and other from high performing privates/publics) who are doing next to no work and getting perfect grades and others who are really, really struggling. It's striking. Ask any kid who is a freshman at one.
My kid see this at their WASP, too.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:39
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment
Do non black people support giving billions to black colleges
Yes. Including MacKenzie Scott (formerly Bezos):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2025/11/17/mackenzie-scott-gives-a-total-of-176-million-to-three-more-hbcus/
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:32
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
The gulf in the classroom at these Ivies is now HUGE in 2025. You have kids (mine and other from high performing privates/publics) who are doing next to no work and getting perfect grades and others who are really, really struggling. It's striking. Ask any kid who is a freshman at one.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:29
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
I have a child who is now a freshman at an Ivy and attended a private feeder and is ending the semester with 99-100% across the board in all classes, frankly without studying. There are kids who routinely get 15-20% on the exams and they aren't the athletes who they say are primarily the private school kids and/or kids from areas like the DMV.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
I get that colleges want to extend opportunities to kids who otherwise would never get a leap up in life and I think this is probably a very good institutional priority. But a result you have many, many kids who are very average at these schools (and again, they've generally not the athletes). My kid says the kids in their private school classes were far more impressive than the kids in their Ivy classes. This is NOT a private/public school debate as I'm sure it would be the same if he/she went to a magnet or high performing public.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:27
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment
Meant Chartered ( spell check correction)
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:26
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Anonymous wrote:Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment
Do non black people support giving billions to black colleges
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:24
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:17
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
My Alma mater has been doing this for a while.
But I do think it means that colleges will need to provide a lot more support. Remember all those articles about how kids at the elite schools don’t know basic math or Harvard has a remedial math class or whatecer? That’s largely because these schools are trying to help kids from the low income failing school districts. It’s good the schools are doing this but it will impact things like their graduation rates—they are essentially taking more risks on students because of the inequities in our nations K-12 educational system.
But I do think it means that colleges will need to provide a lot more support. Remember all those articles about how kids at the elite schools don’t know basic math or Harvard has a remedial math class or whatecer? That’s largely because these schools are trying to help kids from the low income failing school districts. It’s good the schools are doing this but it will impact things like their graduation rates—they are essentially taking more risks on students because of the inequities in our nations K-12 educational system.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:09
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
I bet that this ends up translating into which lower income families have access to schools with full course offerings. I imagine that means families who move to high-income districts even if hard for themselves, or exurban/growing districts with some poorer rural residents. In my mind this isn’t supportive of Black America. It’s Asian families in high performing districts and lower income white families in newly booming exurbs.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 08:01
Subject: Re:Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
I’m not sure how this will play out with Trump’s merit initiatives with college Prez. It sounds like this could be a violation when much more academically qualified applicants are getting rejected.
Anonymous
12/12/2025 07:59
Subject: Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions
these schools prioritize athletes.
everything else is secondary.
everything else is secondary.