Anonymous wrote:The US joining the EU is one of the wildest dreams of the democrat left, maybe even above getting Gretchen Whitmer or Mayor Pete elected president.

Giving up our sovereignty to supranational organizations is a core aspiration of the left.

Weird take. Nobody I have ever heard of is out there advocating for the US to join the EU. The Democrat left wants the EU to lead Europe, not the US. They want the EU to stand up to Russia and other bad actors. Europe is the EU's sphere, not for Russia or the US.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair I think the EU even wants Hungary to leave. The others are fine though.

+1 Hungary should leave. They are more in line with Russia than France. I think the EU would be happy for them to leave.

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Interesting how you pick and choose. In its current state, the EU should be disbanded because while the "in group" is afforded benefits and protections, it arbitrarily leaves out a handful of peripheral states that creates a natural destabilizing area for Russians to try to gain influence. Either the EU should constrict and go back to the original 6 countries or the expanded 14 countries, or it should include all the European countries up to the borders of Russia, Belarus, and Turkey.

If the EU is constricted, it will allow enough states in central Europe to be strong enough to form their own economic and security bloc. Otherwise the 10 or so remaining countries will always be too weak to fend off economic or military aggression from either the EU or Russia, and will always be a small powers zone of conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:So the Trump administration is actively trying to destabilize the world. Got it.

How is the EU stabilizing the world?

Koolaid drinker right here ^^

Not the pp but... Curious to hear your take. Make a list please with historical time frames. You don't even need to explain much since I can do that. Too many people shoot down other people without anything to back it up. Without any knowledge of history or geopolitics. PP was asking a question about explaining another claim that had no explanation. Maybe (or not) it was a troll question but valid nonetheless in this context.

So explain one of these two things (which are the two claims):

- "So the Trump administration is actively trying to destabilize the world. Got it"
- "Koolaid drinker right here"

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Anonymous wrote:Bizarre that the MAGAs constantly go on about how "WeSTerN CivILizATioN Is beINg DeSTRoyED" when here it's their guy Trump who's actively undermining a lot of the fabric holding western civilization together - NATO, the EU, destroying generations-deep historical alliances between the US and UK and other European nations, and so on...

Total cognitive dissonance.

When they say WeSTerN CivILizATioN they mean Evangelical Christianity.

You mean finally ending the dole that is the EU and NATO.

Keep licking Putin's ass, MAGA idiot.

p.s., I'll bet you love "freedom."

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Anonymous wrote:Bizarre that the MAGAs constantly go on about how "WeSTerN CivILizATioN Is beINg DeSTRoyED" when here it's their guy Trump who's actively undermining a lot of the fabric holding western civilization together - NATO, the EU, destroying generations-deep historical alliances between the US and UK and other European nations, and so on...

Total cognitive dissonance.

When they say WeSTerN CivILizATioN they mean Evangelical Christianity.

You mean finally ending the dole that is the EU and NATO.

While increasing the dole to Israel?

Let's not forget Argentina just got $40bil

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair I think the EU even wants Hungary to leave. The others are fine though.

+1 Hungary should leave. They are more in line with Russia than France. I think the EU would be happy for them to leave.

Why punish the Hungarian people for the actions of their authoritarian leader? HE’S the problem.

They voted their leader in.

But it makes sense that Trump is courting Hungry. They are just as anti-immigrant as Trump is.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/09/30/hungarians-share-europes-embrace-of-democratic-principles-but-are-less-tolerant-of-refugees-minorities/

And who can forget the lovely image of that Hungarian journalist tripping a refugee who was holding a child. So very Trumpian.

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Anonymous wrote:Bizarre that the MAGAs constantly go on about how "WeSTerN CivILizATioN Is beINg DeSTRoyED" when here it's their guy Trump who's actively undermining a lot of the fabric holding western civilization together - NATO, the EU, destroying generations-deep historical alliances between the US and UK and other European nations, and so on...

Total cognitive dissonance.

When they say WeSTerN CivILizATioN they mean Evangelical Christianity.

You mean finally ending the dole that is the EU and NATO.

While increasing the dole to Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:So the Trump administration is actively trying to destabilize the world. Got it.

How is the EU stabilizing the world?

Koolaid drinker right here ^^

Why don't you explain, since you're so knowledgeable? Lol. Three pages in. Lots of ad hominems. Not a single explanation of this "truth" about the EU's alleged function. Almost as if you're all mindlessly parroting propaganda without knowledge.

The US joining the EU is one of the wildest dreams of the democrat left, maybe even above getting Gretchen Whitmer or Mayor Pete elected president.

Giving up our sovereignty to supranational organizations is a core aspiration of the left.

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Anonymous wrote:Bizarre that the MAGAs constantly go on about how "WeSTerN CivILizATioN Is beINg DeSTRoyED" when here it's their guy Trump who's actively undermining a lot of the fabric holding western civilization together - NATO, the EU, destroying generations-deep historical alliances between the US and UK and other European nations, and so on...

Total cognitive dissonance.

When they say WeSTerN CivILizATioN they mean Evangelical Christianity.

You mean finally ending the dole that is the EU and NATO.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the Trump administration is actively trying to destabilize the world. Got it.

How is the EU stabilizing the world?

Koolaid drinker right here ^^

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre that the MAGAs constantly go on about how "WeSTerN CivILizATioN Is beINg DeSTRoyED" when here it's their guy Trump who's actively undermining a lot of the fabric holding western civilization together - NATO, the EU, destroying generations-deep historical alliances between the US and UK and other European nations, and so on...

Total cognitive dissonance.

When they say WeSTerN CivILizATioN they mean Evangelical Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair I think the EU even wants Hungary to leave. The others are fine though.

+1 Hungary should leave. They are more in line with Russia than France. I think the EU would be happy for them to leave.

Why punish the Hungarian people for the actions of their authoritarian leader? HE’S the problem.

Anonymous wrote:To be fair I think the EU even wants Hungary to leave. The others are fine though.

+1 Hungary should leave. They are more in line with Russia than France. I think the EU would be happy for them to leave.

Anonymous wrote:https://europeannewsroom.com/report-trump-wants-to-detach-austria-from-the-eu/

https://www.the-sun.com/news/15625309/europe-four-countries-exit-eu-trump-plan/

I don’t think this has been mentioned here yet. “As the platform “Defense One” reports, citing a longer, previously unpublished version of the new US security strategy, Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland are listed as countries with which the USA “should cooperate more… with the aim of pulling them away from the (European Union).””

I don’t think these countries will go for this … yet. Dangerous talk in dangerous times. These are the only non-paywalled articles I could find.

Putin's investments are really paying dividends... First, Balkanize the USA. Next, break up the EU. Both are strongly WIPs.