Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:26     Subject: R.I.P. American children

The reason some European countries can delay it is because of universal health care. Those babies will be seeing pediatricians and getting it at 2 months or whatever. In America, with our crappy healthcare system, a lot of babies are born and will not see a pediatrician again in a timely manner. These children will get infected, and some will die. It also means they will give the disease to others, and more people will die. That's why we went to a vaccinate at birth policy.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:23     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:22     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?


Yes, it means it may be impossible now get the vax for newborns.


As the vaccine is far cheaper than the cost of treatment for Hepatitis B, I am hoping insurance will still cover the vaccine.

This administration is idiocy. We are literally returning to an approach that already failed.


Long story short, no insurance cannot ignore ACIP. Go lookup ACA provisions, which millions of kids are covered under.

Americans have no idea what they've just done, do they?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:10     Subject: R.I.P. American children

"GOP/MAGA want to kill your children," is the simple, easy enough for a 3rd grader to understand messaging the Dems need to repeat every single day ad nauseam until 2028.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:08     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?


Yes, it means it may be impossible now get the vax for newborns.


As the vaccine is far cheaper than the cost of treatment for Hepatitis B, I am hoping insurance will still cover the vaccine.

This administration is idiocy. We are literally returning to an approach that already failed.


No kidding. Liver cancer is expensive. The gobsmacking stupidity of the
Trump administration is astonishing.


They’re looking for a million ways to cull the population.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:01     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



If this is the Case then why do all newborns get Hep B vaccine?


Because the risk based approach the PP posted already failed.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:59     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



If this is the Case then why do all newborns get Hep B vaccine?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:58     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?


Absolutely they can. The amount of misinformation in this thread is insane.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:57     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:53     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



My Dad's a pediatrician and we just talked about it. They changed policy because when this was the case, kids were picking it up from other caretakers and getting liver disease. My Dad himself treated kids this happened to.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:52     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:1. We had a risk based approach to Hep B vaccination and it failed so we are returning to a failed approach

2. For anyone who says it is unnecessary to vaccinate babies because they don't have sex or do drugs, the 2nd most common way children are infected (after maternal transmission) is through household contacts or even potentially daycare contacts. That is because...

3.Even though Hep B is a blood borne pathogen, ila tiny amount of it is highly virulent and stable on dry surfaces for at least a week. As an example of this, dialysis facilities have additional protocols for Hepatitis B patients to prevent outbreaks that are not used for HIV patients or Hepatitis C patients. Anyone Hep B positive must he dialyzed in a separate room, with a separate dedicated machine and supplies, only used for Hepatitis B patients.

Children WILL die because of this roll back to a policy that was already known to fail.



This. Many infants are placed in daycare by 3-6 months. And of course you’re not going to know the health background of
the care providers you’re entrusting your child to, and consider the high turnover rate. Better to protect your child. These folks aren’t pulling six figures and will show up ill if they have to to pay rent and put food on the table for their kids.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:48     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.

Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:47     Subject: R.I.P. American children

The histrionics over this Hep B vaccine for newborns is insane. It's still available, you can choose to do it, and insurance still covers it.

Seriously, seek help. This is nothing.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:45     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?


Yes, it means it may be impossible now get the vax for newborns.


As the vaccine is far cheaper than the cost of treatment for Hepatitis B, I am hoping insurance will still cover the vaccine.

This administration is idiocy. We are literally returning to an approach that already failed.


No kidding. Liver cancer is expensive. The gobsmacking stupidity of the
Trump administration is astonishing.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 15:43     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?


Yes, it means it may be impossible now get the vax for newborns.


As the vaccine is far cheaper than the cost of treatment for Hepatitis B, I am hoping insurance will still cover the vaccine.

This administration is idiocy. We are literally returning to an approach that already failed.