Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you entitled to his trust?

The kids are

They are not unless they are a beneficiary.

If a dynasty trust

Otherwise yes, even beneficiaries can change in revocable trusts- new wife, new kids, charity, whatever

I don't get the impression OP was talking about a revocable trust. I think they are saying that there are assets in trust with the spouse and probably the kids as beneficiaries. Those assets aren't marital property, but the family has been living off distributions from the trust. So the OP wants to make sure child support calculations and whatever else consider the trust. I'm not sure that's how it works, but I think that's what the OP is asking.

That is what I am asking on the support side. My attorney has stepped up their strategy so am going to see where this keeps going while also consulting with another or or two. The advice on a trust and estate attorney might be what I need - thank you!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you entitled to his trust?

The kids are

They are not unless they are a beneficiary.

If a dynasty trust

Otherwise yes, even beneficiaries can change in revocable trusts- new wife, new kids, charity, whatever

I don't get the impression OP was talking about a revocable trust. I think they are saying that there are assets in trust with the spouse and probably the kids as beneficiaries. Those assets aren't marital property, but the family has been living off distributions from the trust. So the OP wants to make sure child support calculations and whatever else consider the trust. I'm not sure that's how it works, but I think that's what the OP is asking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you entitled to his trust?

The kids are

They are not unless they are a beneficiary.

If a dynasty trust

Otherwise yes, even beneficiaries can change in revocable trusts- new wife, new kids, charity, whatever

Anonymous wrote: do not recommend Debbie Cochran at all.

I don’t really want to get the details because it’s too specific and identifiable, but she has represented me in the past, and I am really unhappy with the outcome.

If you are happy with your divorce lawyer, but have a complex trust issue, you need to find an estate trust attorney to consult. I am somewhat surprised that your lawyer does not have a recommendation, but maybe try posting again with a specific request for an estate and trust attorney and leave out the divorce issue. My personal experience with this board is most people have fairly simple divorces and cannot relate to the potential complexities of a more complicated divorce.

Lawyer here and sadly this really just isn’t true. Lawyers want divorces to be complicated but really, they’re not that complicated if you don’t let them be. Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise settled everything in 11 days. You think their situation wasn’t complicated? Lawyers should know about trusts, or at the least be able to consult with a trust lawyer.

do not recommend Debbie Cochran at all.

I don’t really want to get the details because it’s too specific and identifiable, but she has represented me in the past, and I am really unhappy with the outcome.

If you are happy with your divorce lawyer, but have a complex trust issue, you need to find an estate trust attorney to consult. I am somewhat surprised that your lawyer does not have a recommendation, but maybe try posting again with a specific request for an estate and trust attorney and leave out the divorce issue. My personal experience with this board is most people have fairly simple divorces and cannot relate to the potential complexities of a more complicated divorce.

Op here - thank you for the two names. As I said, extremely complicated situation, lots of hidden assets, a lot of them marital - my attorney isn’t clamoring for court in any way - I just want to consult with someone else to major sure the strategy we are pursuing is in line with others thoughts on how this will need to go …. Appreciate the help -

Anonymous wrote:If your ex is anything like mine, they made their money being a little ruthless. You saw glimpses of it, didn't you? I did and I never forgot it. But he was pretty good to me and treated me with kid gloves for many years. Until he didn’t.

Just get it all over with as soon as you can.
Once you start going to court it’s awful snd not worth it (except for lawyers who relish the high billing pace of a trial). It’s pay dirt for them.

DP here and I am still happily married but I know enough to know that I don’t ever want to be in a courtroom opposite my spouse, who is also a lawyer.

If your ex is anything like mine, they made their money being a little ruthless. You saw glimpses of it, didn't you? I did and I never forgot it. But he was pretty good to me and treated me with kid gloves for many years. Until he didn’t.

Just get it all over with as soon as you can.
Once you start going to court it’s awful snd not worth it (except for lawyers who relish the high billing pace of a trial). It’s pay dirt for them.

In writing, basically
convey I want you to stop representing me and I want you to stop all work immediately.

I had a divorce lawyer rush to send our discovery requests AFTER I fired her.

I did not review the written questions she asked. It was her standard sets. Fortunately, it didn’t matter much. Most of the negotiations I managed. Most of the concessions I got was well after the lawyers left the picture.

If the kids are in the trust, why are you fighting this? It’s going directly to them and not through a middle man (you). Ask to see the terms of the trust. He can redact the numbers and show it to you.

You are in a good situation. Stay in it. There is a 1,000 ways a person with money can screw you over. Play nice

It’s okay to switch lawyers. I learned they are constantly sending files to each other after clients fire them.

You know when it’s way too easy?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you entitled to his trust?

The kids are

They are not unless they are a beneficiary.

Just stop. You don’t know anything

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you entitled to his trust?

The kids are

They are not unless they are a beneficiary.

Christian Lapham with bean Kinney Korman.

Commingling is bad if you are the trust owner. Try Debby Cochran in Tyson’s. She can at least point you in the right direction if she’s not it.

+1 Agree with HNW marketing.
That is not a real thing.