Anonymous wrote:Both schools are hard to get into, but Columbia is far more selective. Columbia's acceptance rate in 2025 was 3.9% while Barnard was 8.8%. Bright kids are present at both school, but on average, Columbia College and SEAS undergrads have higher stats upon admittance.

GS is an easy admit, 25% of enrollment, and they take classes with the College and SEAS — that’s 1/4 of students significantly lower than Barnard.

Both schools are hard to get into, but Columbia is far more selective. Columbia's acceptance rate in 2025 was 3.9% while Barnard was 8.8%. Bright kids are present at both school, but on average, Columbia College and SEAS undergrads have higher stats upon admittance.

There are so many threads on this topic already. Barnard and Columbia College have quite different cultures. In my opinion Barnard’s culture is far more supportive and warm. The other major different is that Columbia college has the common core which is very unique. Also, students at one can take classes at the other, they will end up taking the majority of the classes at their home college. If you actually want to know, just take a tour of both. It’s obviously easy to do as they are across the street from each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

They can if there is space available; And these are like six classes on: Arts, Music, Scientific Frontiers... More like General Ed - so you don't have a Grad saying: Bach, Mozart, who?

Not exactly the meat of why a kid goes to Columbia, If you made it into either schools the number of APs kind of takes care of this for you.

As a CC grad I disagree. You left out the actual main courses of the core. Taking Lit Hum, which involves reading key works of the past 2,000 years, and Contemporary Civilization, which covers philosophy is the sine qua non of being a Columbian. The freshman and sophomores bond over reading the same books together and it is a shared experience they can and do discuss with alumni.

PP. I guess that makes sense. I assumed the Barnard Foundations would be the similar. There you go - why go to Barnard vs Columbia?

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Anonymous wrote:Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

They can if there is space available; And these are like six classes on: Arts, Music, Scientific Frontiers... More like General Ed - so you don't have a Grad saying: Bach, Mozart, who?

Not exactly the meat of why a kid goes to Columbia, If you made it into either schools the number of APs kind of takes care of this for you.

As a CC grad I disagree. You left out the actual main courses of the core. Taking Lit Hum, which involves reading key works of the past 2,000 years, and Contemporary Civilization, which covers philosophy is the sine qua non of being a Columbian. The freshman and sophomores bond over reading the same books together and it is a shared experience they can and do discuss with alumni.

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Anonymous wrote:Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

They can if there is space available; And these are like six classes on: Arts, Music, Scientific Frontiers... More like General Ed - so you don't have a Grad saying: Bach, Mozart, who?

Not exactly the meat of why a kid goes to Columbia, If you made it into either schools the number of APs kind of takes care of this for you.

You clearly don't know Columbia College well.

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Anonymous wrote:Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

They can if there is space available; And these are like six classes on: Arts, Music, Scientific Frontiers... More like General Ed - so you don't have a Grad saying: Bach, Mozart, who?

Not exactly the meat of why a kid goes to Columbia, If you made it into either schools the number of APs kind of takes care of this for you.

As a CC grad I disagree. You left out the actual main courses of the core. Taking Lit Hum, which involves reading key works of the past 2,000 years, and Contemporary Civilization, which covers philosophy is the sine qua non of being a Columbian. The freshman and sophomores bond over reading the same books together and it is a shared experience they can and do discuss with alumni.

Anonymous wrote:I used the computers ate Barnard before to finish a paper when i went to Cuny, those girls are so sweet and kind, and they throw pizza parties once a week

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I used the computers ate Barnard before to finish a paper when i went to Cuny, those girls are so sweet and kind, and they throw pizza parties once a week

Anonymous wrote:Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

They can if there is space available; And these are like six classes on: Arts, Music, Scientific Frontiers... More like General Ed - so you don't have a Grad saying: Bach, Mozart, who?

Not exactly the meat of why a kid goes to Columbia, If you made it into either schools the number of APs kind of takes care of this for you.

I know parents that deck themselves out in Columbia gear all the time, but their daughter goes to Barnard. I don’t see them wearing anything that says Barnard. So to them—Yes, Barnard is absolutely the same as Columbia!

Anonymous wrote:Ugg this again??

Ugg ??? LOL !

OP has asked a reasonable, legitimate question.

Now, back to your boots...

Barnard students can't take Core classes. I believe they also just instituted a new policy whereby Barnard students can't take any Columbia classes during their first year.

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Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Why apply to Barnard if you can just enroll at Columbia?

No one can "just enroll at Columbia"

DP. Except if you go to Barnard. Called cross-registration.

Anonymous wrote:I am confused. Why apply to Barnard if you can just enroll at Columbia?

No one can "just enroll at Columbia"