Anonymous wrote:Stem folks know plenty about philosophy and humanity.

I majored in engineering and took multiple philosophy classes, a religion class, studio art class, writing in classics, sociology, history, and more.

The writers are easily replaced by AI- whether they’re writing text or code. My stem job is human facing and will be one of the last replaced, if ever. You people have no idea what stem majors even do. Humans could survive without humanities majors but could not survive without stem majors.
In fact, some of the most unethical people are humanities majors you praise- the lawyers and politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me sad.

A lot of lawyers I know were English or Philosophy majors, and they’re some of the highest paid people I know.

What’s scary is this—-people crap on education degrees, “soft” sciences like psychology and sociology, and they don’t want their kids to go into these roles. But they still want and need teachers to exist, they still want and need professors to exist so their grandkids can go to college and take a variety of classes that widen their thinking. Some of the most revered people in the world are music artists and actors. You want your kid to take piano lessons—from whom? A musician. You go to the theater several times a year and it brings you joy? Theater graduates. These professions wouldn’t exist if the arts and humanities were not funded. I go to the bookstore and it’s packed with people buying books—you know who writes these books? English majors! You know who edits them?? Also English majors!

We have a sad society when these important roles that bring a richness to our otherwise dull lives are seen as worthless or bad.

I majored in classics and history. It was really interesting and I became a really strong writer. I went to law school and never had any difficulty finding a job. Came to college from a lower middle class family via catholic school.

Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me sad.

A lot of lawyers I know were English or Philosophy majors, and they’re some of the highest paid people I know.

What’s scary is this—-people crap on education degrees, “soft” sciences like psychology and sociology, and they don’t want their kids to go into these roles. But they still want and need teachers to exist, they still want and need professors to exist so their grandkids can go to college and take a variety of classes that widen their thinking. Some of the most revered people in the world are music artists and actors. You want your kid to take piano lessons—from whom? A musician. You go to the theater several times a year and it brings you joy? Theater graduates. These professions wouldn’t exist if the arts and humanities were not funded. I go to the bookstore and it’s packed with people buying books—you know who writes these books? English majors! You know who edits them?? Also English majors!

We have a sad society when these important roles that bring a richness to our otherwise dull lives are seen as worthless or bad.

Anonymous wrote:STEM majors have 40-50% of courses that are humanities.

It is the humanities majors who are having serious gaps in education.

Engineering is the liberal arts education of the 21st century.

Anonymous wrote:Stem folks know plenty about philosophy and humanity.

I majored in engineering and took multiple philosophy classes, a religion class, studio art class, writing in classics, sociology, history, and more.

The writers are easily replaced by AI- whether they’re writing text or code. My stem job is human facing and will be one of the last replaced, if ever. You people have no idea what stem majors even do. Humans could survive without humanities majors but could not survive without stem majors.
In fact, some of the most unethical people are humanities majors you praise- the lawyers and politicians.

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Anonymous wrote:Stem folks know plenty about philosophy and humanity.

I majored in engineering and took multiple philosophy classes, a religion class, studio art class, writing in classics, sociology, history, and more.

The writers are easily replaced by AI- whether they’re writing text or code. My stem job is human facing and will be one of the last replaced, if ever. You people have no idea what stem majors even do. Humans could survive without humanities majors but could not survive without stem majors.
In fact, some of the most unethical people are humanities majors you praise- the lawyers and politicians.

Maybe we should strive for more than mere survival. I don't find our iPhones and ability to send a rocket to Gaza that interesting. It's great that we have people curing us from cancer, but what about...things worth living for?

Anonymous wrote:Stem folks know plenty about philosophy and humanity.

I majored in engineering and took multiple philosophy classes, a religion class, studio art class, writing in classics, sociology, history, and more.

The writers are easily replaced by AI- whether they’re writing text or code. My stem job is human facing and will be one of the last replaced, if ever. You people have no idea what stem majors even do. Humans could survive without humanities majors but could not survive without stem majors.
In fact, some of the most unethical people are humanities majors you praise- the lawyers and politicians.

Anonymous wrote:Stem folks know plenty about philosophy and humanity.

I majored in engineering and took multiple philosophy classes, a religion class, studio art class, writing in classics, sociology, history, and more.

The writers are easily replaced by AI- whether they’re writing text or code. My stem job is human facing and will be one of the last replaced, if ever. You people have no idea what stem majors even do. Humans could survive without humanities majors but could not survive without stem majors.
In fact, some of the most unethical people are humanities majors you praise- the lawyers and politicians.

Anonymous wrote:STEM majors have 40-50% of courses that are humanities.

It is the humanities majors who are having serious gaps in education.

Engineering is the liberal arts education of the 21st century.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is applying this year to jobs in the humanities sphere (Public facing careers mostly, along with publishing, editing, and copywriting). She has grown up in a generation where STEM has been thrown down the throat of every child in the education system, and people find humanities education a complete joke. Year over year, humanities departments are seeing reduced enrollment, funding cuts, and less cultural significance; yet, to get a job or to practice the humanities is very elitist and gatekept. What's going on here and will we ever see a resurgence in a literate, culturally-aware society?

The reason STEM is pushed down throats is precisely because humanities jobs are so rare and thus elitist/competitive.

+1 One can still make a better living from a STEM job than a humanities based job. Teachers who teach STEM subjects in colleges get paid more than teachers who teach humanities.

It's also harder for schools to find STEM teachers than humanities teachers.

Someone I know graduated with an English degree from a public ivy. I graduate with a BBA from a no name state u and then pivoted to IT. I have outearned this person since our 20s, by a lot.

This is not true. Professors of disciplines are paid pretty consistently for tenure track lines at most institutions- exceptions actually tend to be in medical colleges and business programs, not STEM programs. If you go into a predatory position, where your salary is only determined by grant allocation-then sure, you will make more because your institution isn't paying you and the federal government likes the NSF more than the NHA.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is applying this year to jobs in the humanities sphere (Public facing careers mostly, along with publishing, editing, and copywriting). She has grown up in a generation where STEM has been thrown down the throat of every child in the education system, and people find humanities education a complete joke. Year over year, humanities departments are seeing reduced enrollment, funding cuts, and less cultural significance; yet, to get a job or to practice the humanities is very elitist and gatekept. What's going on here and will we ever see a resurgence in a literate, culturally-aware society?

The reason STEM is pushed down throats is precisely because humanities jobs are so rare and thus elitist/competitive.

+1 One can still make a better living from a STEM job than a humanities based job. Teachers who teach STEM subjects in colleges get paid more than teachers who teach humanities.

It's also harder for schools to find STEM teachers than humanities teachers.

Someone I know graduated with an English degree from a public ivy. I graduate with a BBA from a no name state u and then pivoted to IT. I have outearned this person since our 20s, by a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is applying this year to jobs in the humanities sphere (Public facing careers mostly, along with publishing, editing, and copywriting). She has grown up in a generation where STEM has been thrown down the throat of every child in the education system, and people find humanities education a complete joke. Year over year, humanities departments are seeing reduced enrollment, funding cuts, and less cultural significance; yet, to get a job or to practice the humanities is very elitist and gatekept. What's going on here and will we ever see a resurgence in a literate, culturally-aware society?

The reason STEM is pushed down throats is precisely because humanities jobs are so rare and thus elitist/competitive.