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Anonymous wrote:Watching episode 1 now and I’m into it! It’s my first Ken Burns so guess I’m officially old lol

Go back and watch "The Civil War."

The PP is right. This one is boring. And that's coming from someone who is usually a big Ken Burns fan.

The Civil War was really amazing. This one is just less compelling, somehow. I’m not sure if it’s my own over-familiarity with the subject matter, or what. I keep finding my attention drifting.

The subject is much bigger than the Civil War. It's far more complex and there are far more characters involved. It's amazing in that most Americans have no clue that the Revolutionary War was really a Civil War. Most people don't realize how everyone involved was screwed and most soldiers were treated poorly and never paid. Most people have no clue about the stasi like machine watching, controlling, intimidating citizens in to agreeing with the Revolution even though most people were neutral.

I agree it's often overlooked by the masses that the American Revolution pitted loyalists against revolutionaries while many were neutral. But it's not unknown, it's discussed in all serious histories and we talked about it when I was in HS 30 years ago.

As for the rest of your post, I did raise an eyebrow. The loyalists were not kind to revolutionaries either. And ultimately one side won.

Modern parallels exist.

MAGAs are like the founding fathers and colonists who were rebelling against big government and wanted freedom.

Democrats, RINOs and establishment corporations are like the loyalists who were loyal to the crown and big government.

40% of the population were neither, and just trying to exist among the ruckus or lived outside the law and civilization's rules.

Finally finished it and gave to agree that it pales in comparison with his other works. Some of it couldn’t be helped because there just isn’t the same amount of imagery available. But also, the experts werent as compelling or passionate about their subjects, and the story dragged on too long. Less troop movements and more personal narratives would have helped immensely.

I just finished the first episode and will continue watching. I'm fascinated by this time period. The story is certainly more complex than what I previously knew. And there are a lot of precursors to our modern situation already percolating, from what I can see. We really get a sanitized myth of our history.

Part of the problem for Ken Burns here is that PBS already did a fabulous multi-part documentary back in the '90s called Liberty! The American Revolution. It was done in a compelling if slightly simplified way and featured some nice period acting (including Philip Seymour Hoffman). So Burns couldn't do that again, but honestly, it stole a lot of the thunder of the huge American Revolution documentary, in my view. Because it's not like there is a "new angle" to be had 250 years on.

Anonymous wrote:It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

I think it’s very timely, reminding us of the importance of what they did for us. And how it’s being ruined.

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Anonymous wrote:I am watching but I find my attention wandering because it is boring. Anyone else feel this way?

He's always slanted in a liberal way to get attention so we don't watch. ever

So you would have preferred a more positive focus on England. The ungrateful colonists and all.

Anonymous wrote:I am watching but I find my attention wandering because it is boring. Anyone else feel this way?

He's always slanted in a liberal way to get attention so we don't watch. ever

Anonymous wrote:Clicked here but don’t want to see any spoilers and ruin the ending for me.

Ha ha

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Anonymous wrote:It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

That’s because the history you learned was propaganda bullshit.

Oh, I recognize this language from the political forum, are you next going to call someone "scum" or zionist "filth"?

No, but I will call you naive and somewhat pathetic. “Pure and Patriotic”. What a rube.

Insults--so effective.

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Anonymous wrote:It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

That’s because the history you learned was propaganda bullshit.

Oh, I recognize this language from the political forum, are you next going to call someone "scum" or zionist "filth"?

No, but I will call you naive and somewhat pathetic. “Pure and Patriotic”. What a rube.

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Anonymous wrote:It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

That’s because the history you learned was propaganda bullshit.

Oh, I recognize this language from the political forum, are you next going to call someone "scum" or zionist "filth"?

Anonymous wrote:It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

That’s because the history you learned was propaganda bullshit.

It's making me sad for our country. There was so much division and self serving attitudes. This is not the American history I learned in school. It's less pure and patriotic.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching episode 1 now and I’m into it! It’s my first Ken Burns so guess I’m officially old lol

Go back and watch "The Civil War."

The PP is right. This one is boring. And that's coming from someone who is usually a big Ken Burns fan.

The Civil War was really amazing. This one is just less compelling, somehow. I’m not sure if it’s my own over-familiarity with the subject matter, or what. I keep finding my attention drifting.

The subject is much bigger than the Civil War. It's far more complex and there are far more characters involved. It's amazing in that most Americans have no clue that the Revolutionary War was really a Civil War. Most people don't realize how everyone involved was screwed and most soldiers were treated poorly and never paid. Most people have no clue about the stasi like machine watching, controlling, intimidating citizens in to agreeing with the Revolution even though most people were neutral.

I agree it's often overlooked by the masses that the American Revolution pitted loyalists against revolutionaries while many were neutral. But it's not unknown, it's discussed in all serious histories and we talked about it when I was in HS 30 years ago.

As for the rest of your post, I did raise an eyebrow. The loyalists were not kind to revolutionaries either. And ultimately one side won.

I love history so I’m into it. Like rewinding and relistening to key points into it. And for Matthew Rhys fans, he’s a great Thomas Paine.

The Colonists won!

Who knew?!?