Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 17:13     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Clearly telling people not to eat is not working well or we would not be in the situation where 70% of Americans are overweight. Results matter more than the method, that method has been tried but isn’t working well. Ozempic works very well and people actually maintain the weight loss. Considering that almost every country on the planet has become fatter over the last 50 years clearly there are societal issues at play that are making it challenging to maintain a healthy weight. Personal choices are important, but other factors are also important to the current obesity crisis as well.


This. Also the medication isn't magic. You do still have to change your eating habits, otherwise you'll be sick as a dog.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 17:11     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Please join us in this century. People are overweight for a number of reasons, of which overeating is only one. If the issue was as simple as self-control, it wouldn't be a GLOBAL epidemic propped up by a billion dollar diet and weight loss industry.

We have medication that can address the issue of insulin resistance and overactive hunger signals that keep a lot of people from being able to lose weight in spite of their attempts to do so on their own. It honestly sounds like you're more concerned with punishing and judging people than actually solving the problem.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 17:02     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there no politicians campaigning on free Ozempic for everyone? Literally, 70% of the country is overweight and most people cannot afford to buy GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Ozempic only costs around $5 to produce a month worth of medication. It would cost the US government around 16 billion dollars/year to provide every adult Ozempic. Just make the drug OTC and provide it for free to every adult in the US who can provide their SSN to verify identity. This drug reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes by almost 20%, likely reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s, lowers risk of cancer and reduces all cause mortality by 10-12%. It makes absolutely no sense that we are not providing it for free to every adult that wants to take it. This policy would save US taxpayers money, while boosting US life expectancy and enhancing quality of life. Any politician who campaigned on free Ozempic would likely win in a landslide and there are many voters that would support the politician solely because they want free weight loss medication.


So you’re saying the US government should just confiscate the patent and any other rights from the company that developed Ozempic?


I think what maybe OP is suggesting is that the US government fork over a one-time payment to Novo Nordisk to compensate them for the remaining term on the patent, as a societal/strategic good of the country.

GLP-1s will become as cheap as statins...it's a given. Once these drugs come off-patent, you will be able to get for free or like maybe $10/month.


It becomes generic in the early 2030s. The government should just buy out the patent before it expires. Even if it cost 100-200B to buy the patent out it is still worth it. The savings to taxpayers would be enormous.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 17:00     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Clearly telling people not to eat is not working well or we would not be in the situation where 70% of Americans are overweight. Results matter more than the method, that method has been tried but isn’t working well. Ozempic works very well and people actually maintain the weight loss. Considering that almost every country on the planet has become fatter over the last 50 years clearly there are societal issues at play that are making it challenging to maintain a healthy weight. Personal choices are important, but other factors are also important to the current obesity crisis as well.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:42     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are there no politicians campaigning on free Ozempic for everyone? Literally, 70% of the country is overweight and most people cannot afford to buy GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Ozempic only costs around $5 to produce a month worth of medication. It would cost the US government around 16 billion dollars/year to provide every adult Ozempic. Just make the drug OTC and provide it for free to every adult in the US who can provide their SSN to verify identity. This drug reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes by almost 20%, likely reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s, lowers risk of cancer and reduces all cause mortality by 10-12%. It makes absolutely no sense that we are not providing it for free to every adult that wants to take it. This policy would save US taxpayers money, while boosting US life expectancy and enhancing quality of life. Any politician who campaigned on free Ozempic would likely win in a landslide and there are many voters that would support the politician solely because they want free weight loss medication.


There can be severe life threatening side effects to ozempic.

What? Obesity comes with a lot of life threatening problems.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:32     Subject: Re:Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Ozempic only costs around $5 to produce a month worth of medication.


What did the R&D cost? Isn't the manufacturer entitled to recoup that and also make a profit? Most drugs have a very low manufacturing cost, but we wouldn't have them without significant R&D expenses.

And, no, I really don't want the government to be involved in any of this. It's not as if we have the money, anyway, since the budget deficit keeps getting worse.

Gotta keep sending those $20 billion handouts to Argentina!

You forgot Israel. It is the largest recipient of US tax dollars.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:30     Subject: Re:Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:Verify identity? Should we give it to illegals too?

You want the obese, diabetic illegal having a stroke while driving and killing you on the highway? If not, then yes, illegals too.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:25     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Idiotic take devoid of science. People wouldn't smoke if they just chose to stop smoking, right? If all took was not overeating very few people would be obese. Yet obesity rates are getting worse.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:24     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


It would be wonderful if all food and drug commercials were pulled from all media. And an extra high tax placed on soda. Those two things alone would help people lose weight.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:14     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:Why are there no politicians campaigning on free Ozempic for everyone? Literally, 70% of the country is overweight and most people cannot afford to buy GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Ozempic only costs around $5 to produce a month worth of medication. It would cost the US government around 16 billion dollars/year to provide every adult Ozempic. Just make the drug OTC and provide it for free to every adult in the US who can provide their SSN to verify identity. This drug reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes by almost 20%, likely reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s, lowers risk of cancer and reduces all cause mortality by 10-12%. It makes absolutely no sense that we are not providing it for free to every adult that wants to take it. This policy would save US taxpayers money, while boosting US life expectancy and enhancing quality of life. Any politician who campaigned on free Ozempic would likely win in a landslide and there are many voters that would support the politician solely because they want free weight loss medication.



Stop trying to fat-shame an entire country, bigot!
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:10     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:Why are there no politicians campaigning on free Ozempic for everyone? Literally, 70% of the country is overweight and most people cannot afford to buy GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Ozempic only costs around $5 to produce a month worth of medication. It would cost the US government around 16 billion dollars/year to provide every adult Ozempic. Just make the drug OTC and provide it for free to every adult in the US who can provide their SSN to verify identity. This drug reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes by almost 20%, likely reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s, lowers risk of cancer and reduces all cause mortality by 10-12%. It makes absolutely no sense that we are not providing it for free to every adult that wants to take it. This policy would save US taxpayers money, while boosting US life expectancy and enhancing quality of life. Any politician who campaigned on free Ozempic would likely win in a landslide and there are many voters that would support the politician solely because they want free weight loss medication.


There can be severe life threatening side effects to ozempic.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:04     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
I would love universal health care. I’m not obsessed with GLP-1s because I’m not fat or out of control.

OP, you must have hit your goal weight and are on a somewhat manic high. Congratulations, that’s a huge and very hard-won accomplishment.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 16:03     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Yeah, but I dare you to try changing the food industry’s freedom to advertise and develop addicting foods. You see the snicker’s logo and you’re primed for eating one.

And try changing sugar subsidies.

You can do that then we can rely on self-control.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 15:52     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.


Telling people to stop consuming is un-American.

Don't you get it yet? This is who we are as a country. Consumption is in our DNA as a country.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2025 15:44     Subject: Forget Universal Healthcare: Start with Universal Ozempic
Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP.

Forget AI, automated cars, and all that other tech bro junk. GLP1 is the single greatest invention of the 21st century thus far. It could save millions of years ofife, dramatically improve the quality of life by removing disease burden and save countries trillions of dollars in healthcare costs over the over the long run.


The same thing can occur at no cost if people don't overeat. Relying on medication instead of self-control is wrongheaded.