UGA has a scholarship that brings CoA down to instate for out of state students - around $25k per year.

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Anonymous wrote:Have the same thought about moving back to Japan as well we are US-JP family.

Why would you live here if you can live in japan and are half Japanese? Sure I know it isn't perfect but for the social hiccups, the upsides are way better from a QoL perspective.

Not that PP but I very much doubt they are "half Japanese" more likely dual citizens.
Japan is a deeply racist nation and people who are "half" Japanese do not fare well there.

Japan is not a racist country. Similar to many Nordic nations, it is largely homogeneous, with people who value cultural traditions and social trust.

Every heard of "Sanseito" or are you just a weeaboo?

All depends on the age of your child. Will they enter the British school system sufficiently before having to take A levels so they are adequately prepared for them? If so go for it. If not has their American education prepared them, probably not.

As far as university, UK schools will provide an equal if not better education. If your child would want to return to the US for work then only a handful have a sufficient reputation to be competitive in a tight job market so that would need to be factored into the equation.

As far as price goes, home country fees can’t be beat. In many cases even international rates provide a discount over comparable US schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Do what you want for your life overall. There are cheap colleges your child can attend here if you look for them. College is not important enough IMO to make it the driver for a big decision like this. A factor, sure. But sometimes kids don’t even go to college, or delay because of medical issues, or whatever. Or take leave after a year. I have college age kids and know many who are not on a straightforward path, for all kinds of reasons.

There is no such thing as a cheap college in North America.

There are plenty of options if your kid is a halfway decent student. Look at Texas Tech or 'Bama, which are fairly cheap with merit scholarships. (TTU merit scholarships come with an oos tuition waiver). They also have better opportunities for internships than most UK universities thanks to America's stronger economy (yes, even now). Your child would need to get in to somewhere like Imperial or Oxbridge to have comparable career options.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello - I’m in a dual US-UK national family, and fortunate have the option to consider overseas college at local rates, which are lower than any in state tuition fees here. Our college savings right now would cover the whole degree. We’re not on track to do this at US prices.

We’re thinking about moving as a family to get local residency, which would mean during the last few years of high school overseas. While this is disruptive, it also means LO graduates with no debt and can choose a career based on interests, not debt payments. Is this bananas?

We have lived and worked in both countries, and both of our careers are at a decision point where we could transition. Biggest downside would be LO having to make new friends at a new school.

What is LO?

Wouldn’t the cost of moving be a lot and defeat the purpose?

There's this thing, its called and inter-company transfer. Travel costs covered and then some.

But UK salaries are way less than US ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Have the same thought about moving back to Japan as well we are US-JP family.

Why would you live here if you can live in japan and are half Japanese? Sure I know it isn't perfect but for the social hiccups, the upsides are way better from a QoL perspective.

Not that PP but I very much doubt they are "half Japanese" more likely dual citizens.
Japan is a deeply racist nation and people who are "half" Japanese do not fare well there.

Japan is not a racist country. Similar to many Nordic nations, it is largely homogeneous, with people who value cultural traditions and social trust.

Japan, like all countries, has a diverse range of individual beliefs and attitudes; however, there is significant evidence that racism and xenophobia are present in Japanese society, often in more subtle, systemic, or passive-aggressive forms than overt hate crimes.
Key points regarding racism and discrimination in Japan:
Lack of Anti-Discrimination Laws: Japan does not have a national law that explicitly prohibits racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination, which makes it harder for victims to seek legal recourse and for the government to track and address the issue effectively.
Racial Profiling: There are significant issues with racial profiling by police. A 2022 survey by the Tokyo Bar Association found that nearly 63% of surveyed foreigners in Japan had been questioned by police in the past five years, with many believing it was due to their appearance alone. A landmark lawsuit was filed in January 2024 by three foreign-born residents against the government over alleged racial profiling.
Discrimination in Daily Life: Foreign residents and those with foreign roots (including Japanese citizens of mixed race) report discrimination in various aspects of life, such as being refused entry to restaurants or bars, difficulty renting apartments, and experiencing microaggressions or derogatory remarks.
"One Race" Myth: A persistent national narrative of ethnic homogeneity has historically led to the marginalization of indigenous groups like the Ainu and Ryukyuans and has also contributed to a general societal belief that racism is a foreign problem that does not exist in Japan.
Historical and Cultural Factors: Anti-Korean and anti-Chinese sentiment is deeply rooted in historical and cultural tensions stemming from Japanese imperialism and wartime history.
Experiences of Mixed-Race Individuals: High-profile figures like Miss Universe Japan 2015 Ariana Miyamoto and tennis champion Naomi Osaka have faced public criticism and social media backlash for not being considered "Japanese enough" due to their non-Japanese heritage.
Personal Experiences Vary: While many foreigners report experiencing some form of discrimination, others, particularly short-term tourists, report overwhelmingly positive experiences and hospitality from locals.
In summary, while overt, violent racism might be less common than in some other countries, systemic and subtle forms of racial prejudice and xenophobia are a reality for many non-Japanese or non-ethnically-Japanese residents.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just about the college. It’s about quality of life—quality of healthcare, education, and civic responsibility. It’s exhausting to watch corruption unfold in front of you every day. There’s peace of mind in living somewhere where life feels easier and the people around you share your values.

Lol Tell me you’ve never actually lived overseas.

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The rose-colored glasses these people wear regarding what they think life is like overseas is just pathetic.

Let's see what is _pathetic_

People who spend half a million dollars on a degree and still rely on their daddy or mommy or uncle to find them a job.
People who have to turn to GoFundMe for medical expenses are a norm in the richest country.
And people who prioritize prestige, brand names, and greed above everything else are equally lost.

It’s actually simple: many people don’t realize that these things don’t determine quality of life. Attending an Ivy League school doesn’t magically make you royalty.

Regarding your last sentence - well, duh! Of course. That's quite the non sequitur you jumped to. My kids attend in-state universities that we're thrilled with and pay reasonable prices for.

As for medical care, do you realize that many people living in countries with socialized medicine (UK, Canada, etc.) wait for YEARS just to get appointments?? And people in other countries *also* often rely on family connections for jobs.

But go ahead and live in your fantastical, imaginary, "corruption-free" utopia!

True - my American kid at Oxford is on National Heakth are there and says it’s awful.

Anonymous wrote:It can work. It seems like personal preference to me.

40% prefer it:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1301860.page

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Anonymous wrote:Have the same thought about moving back to Japan as well we are US-JP family.

Why would you live here if you can live in japan and are half Japanese? Sure I know it isn't perfect but for the social hiccups, the upsides are way better from a QoL perspective.

Not that PP but I very much doubt they are "half Japanese" more likely dual citizens.
Japan is a deeply racist nation and people who are "half" Japanese do not fare well there.

Japan is not a racist country. Similar to many Nordic nations, it is largely homogeneous, with people who value cultural traditions and social trust.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello - I’m in a dual US-UK national family, and fortunate have the option to consider overseas college at local rates, which are lower than any in state tuition fees here. Our college savings right now would cover the whole degree. We’re not on track to do this at US prices.

We’re thinking about moving as a family to get local residency, which would mean during the last few years of high school overseas. While this is disruptive, it also means LO graduates with no debt and can choose a career based on interests, not debt payments. Is this bananas?

We have lived and worked in both countries, and both of our careers are at a decision point where we could transition. Biggest downside would be LO having to make new friends at a new school.

You may be wrong about that. Things have changed a lot in the last few years, as European universities have grown increasingly frustrated with Americans seeking to avoid paying $90,000 a year by studying abroad (I have a child at Oxford). Currently, Oxford is $37,350 to $62,820 POUNDS a year for tuition alone. housing is $18,945 pounds a year for a total of $81,835 pounds a year = same as any American private is now charging. If you can go back as a resident, you may get a break, but then you have to meet the A-level requirements to get into Oxbridge - it is less holistic and more merit-based. I recommend you hire a consultant as we did if you are aiming for Oxbridge.

Yes, all this is true. It's not the huge saver it once was. International Fees have risen in the past 5 yrs from about $25k per year tuition which it used to be for a long time. And accommodation is a lot more expensive because the Uk universities have grown exponentially and this puts pressure on college owned residences and the private sector. My DD is paying about 10k for accommodation and about 35K for tuition and her course is 4 yrs so the net effect is very close to what were our in state options in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Have the same thought about moving back to Japan as well we are US-JP family.

Why would you live here if you can live in japan and are half Japanese? Sure I know it isn't perfect but for the social hiccups, the upsides are way better from a QoL perspective.

Not that PP but I very much doubt they are "half Japanese" more likely dual citizens.
Japan is a deeply racist nation and people who are "half" Japanese do not fare well there.

Anonymous wrote:Have the same thought about moving back to Japan as well we are US-JP family.

Why would you live here if you can live in japan and are half Japanese? Sure I know it isn't perfect but for the social hiccups, the upsides are way better from a QoL perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:When I read stuff like this, I wonder why more kids aren't uprooted to Montana or Mississippi to game Ivy admissions.

For starters, moron, Ivy League tuition is the same whether you’re from Montana or Massachusetts.

Secondly, you act as if everyone who applied from these states gets in. Which we know isn’t the case by a long shot.

u realize the op wants to take his kids from 'merica to jolly old england to save on tuition. bet more parents would want to be equally disruptive to gain an ivy admission advantage. probably a factor of 10. most don't do it because the disruption isn't worth it. saving a few quid a year versus the wholesale lifestyle change. that's a hard one.

/s/ your moran

It’s spelled “moron.” Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just about the college. It’s about quality of life—quality of healthcare, education, and civic responsibility. It’s exhausting to watch corruption unfold in front of you every day. There’s peace of mind in living somewhere where life feels easier and the people around you share your values.

Lol Tell me you’ve never actually lived overseas.

+100
The rose-colored glasses these people wear regarding what they think life is like overseas is just pathetic.

Let's see what is _pathetic_

People who spend half a million dollars on a degree and still rely on their daddy or mommy or uncle to find them a job.
People who have to turn to GoFundMe for medical expenses are a norm in the richest country.
And people who prioritize prestige, brand names, and greed above everything else are equally lost.

It’s actually simple: many people don’t realize that these things don’t determine quality of life. Attending an Ivy League school doesn’t magically make you royalty.

Regarding your last sentence - well, duh! Of course. That's quite the non sequitur you jumped to. My kids attend in-state universities that we're thrilled with and pay reasonable prices for.

As for medical care, do you realize that many people living in countries with socialized medicine (UK, Canada, etc.) wait for YEARS just to get appointments?? And people in other countries *also* often rely on family connections for jobs.

But go ahead and live in your fantastical, imaginary, "corruption-free" utopia!

If the prime motivator is to save money, then I think you need to look at this over a broader timeframe. How much will you save on university costs versus the impact on your family’s savings over the next 10 years? Salaries are typically lower and tax is typically higher in the UK but maybe that’s not the case for you?