I think there’s something biblical about being angry when someone highlights hypocrisy rather than being mad at the hypocrisy.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the fact that this woman herself was lying and running a scam of sorts proof that churches are correct in not just immediately handing over money or resources?

Boo hoo churches were exposed for the fraud that they are. No way to spin this one.

Anonymous wrote:Np. I volunteer in small Appalachian towns every summer. They definitely have food pantries, WIC, and SNAP (honestly, how could you think they wouldn’t have the latter??). Tons of social services for kids and elderly and home bound. In some ways, that’s part of the problem, but I digress.

You Volunteer in one town and now you know every small town in Kentucky, which is where she was has a food pantry?

You know SNAP benefits were cut that week by the federal psychopath.

Do you know how many weeks it takes to get your WIC benefits after you apply? Anyone, anyone, anyone … buehler ?

Do you know how much money you get with WIC? $26 /mtg for an infant

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Isn’t the fact that this woman herself was lying and running a scam of sorts proof that churches are correct in not just immediately handing over money or resources?

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Anonymous wrote:The Methodist church my kid attended preschool at did a food bank distribution every Friday, so they'd definitely help.

I think that one of the challenges is that an infant needing formula isn't a problem that can wait until Friday. In the link I posted above, the first thing the person said was "we have a food pantry, but they aren't open till Sunday . . . " because the person clearly realized that wasn't soon enough. Even if it was Saturday afternoon, a food pantry open on Sunday isn't the immediate solution.

Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?

If I was an actual person with an actual baby, I would start early. But I also wouldn't start with calling churches I wasn't connected to. I can imagine that it might take me some time to get to that solution, and it might be one of my last ditch attempts.

You don’t understand middle America clearly.

Sure in moco or n.va. There are resources but in bum f nowhere churches are those resources.

They don’t even have hospitals, ffs.

Get out of your privileged bubble,

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am saying that if I was a young mom with a baby that I was worried about feeding, I would first try my own church if I had one, and other options. I'd go to the food pantry to see if they had formula. I'd try to get WIC. If I had older kids, I'd ask the social worker at my older kids' school if I had one. I'd put word out that I would do odd jobs like babysitting for cash, and see if any of my friends had formula to spare. I'd probably do all those things before I'd call a church I'm not connected to.

Which means that I might be 100% out when I called churches. I'm explaining why I think a mom calling when she doesn't have any left is believable.

Yes, calling earlier is also believable. But me recognizing how someone might get in the position of calling at the last minute isn't a sign I'm privileged.

I know for a fact, that capital YOU, do not understand that in small towns there is no food pantry, lol you think schools in the middle of nowhere have social workers, WIC and SNAP benefits were just cut by a psychopath, in a small town, your friends might be just as poor as you, your local church might be 35 miles away, you probably don’t own a car, you’re not gonna do odd jobs with a two month old baby, this person could actually have had a job that was illegally cut by DOGE, or they’ve been furlough, you think somebody in middle America, where there is one gas station has a ton of odd jobs…,


Smfh

I am so confused by your response. Someone said that anyone with an actual baby would call in enough time that "Our food pantry is open on Sunday" would be an acceptable solution, and that someone calling as they run out would be suspect.

I said that people who call at the last minute would not be suspect, because for all they know they started trying earlier, and just failed at their early attempts. I gave examples of other things they might have tried, including calling other churches. Other people pointed out that she might have the formula with the botulism that got recalled, or that she might have accidentally spilled her formula or had it stolen. So, none of us are judging a hypothetical mother who calls at the last minute, or saying that a mother in an urgent last minute situation is the problem. I also said that there would be situations where someone might call a church first, perhaps while they still had formula to tide them over a few days. So, I didn't judge people who live in rural communities where they would call a church first either.

Twice now, you've yelled at me saying that the solutions I offer might not work, when I literally gave them as examples of things she might have tried and failed. You seem to be disagreeing with my argument that she shouldn't be judged (well, the Tik Tokker might be judgeable, but the imaginary woman she was pretending to be). Are you saying that my NOT judging a woman is a sign that I'm "privileged"? That judging her would be a sign of privilege?

She did not want to hear about the referral and affiliated resources because she interrupts the receptionists every time they start talking about it.

Look, I know you mean well, but you’re hitching your horse to the wrong cart if you’re trying to advance an agenda on the back of a lying wannabe influencer.

Np. I volunteer in small Appalachian towns every summer. They definitely have food pantries, WIC, and SNAP (honestly, how could you think they wouldn’t have the latter??). Tons of social services for kids and elderly and home bound. In some ways, that’s part of the problem, but I digress.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

When you’re Catholic, you have a mass for a funeral. It’s part of the religion.

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Anonymous wrote:The Methodist church my kid attended preschool at did a food bank distribution every Friday, so they'd definitely help.

I think that one of the challenges is that an infant needing formula isn't a problem that can wait until Friday. In the link I posted above, the first thing the person said was "we have a food pantry, but they aren't open till Sunday . . . " because the person clearly realized that wasn't soon enough. Even if it was Saturday afternoon, a food pantry open on Sunday isn't the immediate solution.

Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?

If I was an actual person with an actual baby, I would start early. But I also wouldn't start with calling churches I wasn't connected to. I can imagine that it might take me some time to get to that solution, and it might be one of my last ditch attempts.

You don’t understand middle America clearly.

Sure in moco or n.va. There are resources but in bum f nowhere churches are those resources.

They don’t even have hospitals, ffs.

Get out of your privileged bubble,

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am saying that if I was a young mom with a baby that I was worried about feeding, I would first try my own church if I had one, and other options. I'd go to the food pantry to see if they had formula. I'd try to get WIC. If I had older kids, I'd ask the social worker at my older kids' school if I had one. I'd put word out that I would do odd jobs like babysitting for cash, and see if any of my friends had formula to spare. I'd probably do all those things before I'd call a church I'm not connected to.

Which means that I might be 100% out when I called churches. I'm explaining why I think a mom calling when she doesn't have any left is believable.

Yes, calling earlier is also believable. But me recognizing how someone might get in the position of calling at the last minute isn't a sign I'm privileged.

I know for a fact, that capital YOU, do not understand that in small towns there is no food pantry, lol you think schools in the middle of nowhere have social workers, WIC and SNAP benefits were just cut by a psychopath, in a small town, your friends might be just as poor as you, your local church might be 35 miles away, you probably don’t own a car, you’re not gonna do odd jobs with a two month old baby, this person could actually have had a job that was illegally cut by DOGE, or they’ve been furlough, you think somebody in middle America, where there is one gas station has a ton of odd jobs…,


Smfh

My church runs a pantry and collects gift card donations. Formula is just way more expensive. I know my priest would try to help.

WIC was still funded even during the shutdown. May that continue I pray.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

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Anonymous wrote:The Methodist church my kid attended preschool at did a food bank distribution every Friday, so they'd definitely help.

I think that one of the challenges is that an infant needing formula isn't a problem that can wait until Friday. In the link I posted above, the first thing the person said was "we have a food pantry, but they aren't open till Sunday . . . " because the person clearly realized that wasn't soon enough. Even if it was Saturday afternoon, a food pantry open on Sunday isn't the immediate solution.

Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?

If I was an actual person with an actual baby, I would start early. But I also wouldn't start with calling churches I wasn't connected to. I can imagine that it might take me some time to get to that solution, and it might be one of my last ditch attempts.

You don’t understand middle America clearly.

Sure in moco or n.va. There are resources but in bum f nowhere churches are those resources.

They don’t even have hospitals, ffs.

Get out of your privileged bubble,

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am saying that if I was a young mom with a baby that I was worried about feeding, I would first try my own church if I had one, and other options. I'd go to the food pantry to see if they had formula. I'd try to get WIC. If I had older kids, I'd ask the social worker at my older kids' school if I had one. I'd put word out that I would do odd jobs like babysitting for cash, and see if any of my friends had formula to spare. I'd probably do all those things before I'd call a church I'm not connected to.

Which means that I might be 100% out when I called churches. I'm explaining why I think a mom calling when she doesn't have any left is believable.

Yes, calling earlier is also believable. But me recognizing how someone might get in the position of calling at the last minute isn't a sign I'm privileged.

If you called my church and asked for formula or diapers, you would get them. If they had none on hand, they would reach out to parishioners to ask them to fulfill the request. The immediate need would be met. And you would also be provided with connections to local resources to help you in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:The Methodist church my kid attended preschool at did a food bank distribution every Friday, so they'd definitely help.

I think that one of the challenges is that an infant needing formula isn't a problem that can wait until Friday. In the link I posted above, the first thing the person said was "we have a food pantry, but they aren't open till Sunday . . . " because the person clearly realized that wasn't soon enough. Even if it was Saturday afternoon, a food pantry open on Sunday isn't the immediate solution.

Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?

If I was an actual person with an actual baby, I would start early. But I also wouldn't start with calling churches I wasn't connected to. I can imagine that it might take me some time to get to that solution, and it might be one of my last ditch attempts.

You don’t understand middle America clearly.

Sure in moco or n.va. There are resources but in bum f nowhere churches are those resources.

They don’t even have hospitals, ffs.

Get out of your privileged bubble,