Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:17
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Obama was a good leader and a solid two term POTUS. We are in the midst of a 12 year run being led by 8 years of the worst POTUS ever and 4 years of the second worst POTUS ever and your sorry racist 80 IQ arse wants to blame the "black" president???? Go jump off of a cliff, moron.
Other than your juvenile insults, you haven’t proven me wrong at all.
Umkay, buddy.... how do I even start to counter your belief that the mess we are in has nothing to do with the two elderly unfit white guys and everything to do with the color of Obama's skin. You aren't worth the time.
Well, you’re wrong.
Obama was the beginning of downward spiral, then came millions of brown people and here we are.
You're a real smart one....
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:17
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
Rachel MaddowAnonymous wrote:No. The right wing has seized control of the media and is much more effective at pushing their version of news than the left. Look at how everyone is pandering to Trump.
and the entire CNN network would beg to differ. The left message is out there, and not that hard to find.
Example: Mamdani Is a national figure at this point, even though only running (really winning) NY mayoral race.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:14
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Obama was a good leader and a solid two term POTUS. We are in the midst of a 12 year run being led by 8 years of the worst POTUS ever and 4 years of the second worst POTUS ever and your sorry racist 80 IQ arse wants to blame the "black" president???? Go jump off of a cliff, moron.
Other than your juvenile insults, you haven’t proven me wrong at all.
Umkay, buddy.... how do I even start to counter your belief that the mess we are in has nothing to do with the two elderly unfit white guys and everything to do with the color of Obama's skin. You aren't worth the time.
Well, you’re wrong.
Obama was the beginning of downward spiral, then came millions of brown people and here we are.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:02
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Obama was a good leader and a solid two term POTUS. We are in the midst of a 12 year run being led by 8 years of the worst POTUS ever and 4 years of the second worst POTUS ever and your sorry racist 80 IQ arse wants to blame the "black" president???? Go jump off of a cliff, moron.
Other than your juvenile insults, you haven’t proven me wrong at all.
Umkay, buddy.... how do I even start to counter your belief that the mess we are in has nothing to do with the two elderly unfit white guys and everything to do with the color of Obama's skin. You aren't worth the time.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 13:01
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:The problem with our politics is that in every election we elect one side, that side screws up while in office, and then the electorate gets mad and punishes the party in power by electing the other side. Every election is won based on the electorate’s negative opinion on the party in power, not their positive opinions about the challenger party.
The problem is that the challenger party, once in office, assumes that they were placed there because the electorate really likes them and all their extremist ideas. So they go about trying to implement their extremist ideas, and the electorate gets mad at them and puts the other party back in power.
At some point the Democrat left will be put back in power. They’ll assume a mandate for their wet dream Democrat left ideas, try to implement them, and promptly be thrown back out.
I said similarly the other day in another post. I don’t understand how the party people cannot understand this. Or maybe they do, which is why they push their extreme positions while they can hoping the other side can’t recover. In any case, they’ve gotten away from helping the people.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 12:49
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:No. The right wing has seized control of the media and is much more effective at pushing their version of news than the left. Look at how everyone is pandering to Trump.
It will swing back because the independents because the two major parties have gone off the rails. They want sanity.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 12:43
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Obama was a good leader and a solid two term POTUS. We are in the midst of a 12 year run being led by 8 years of the worst POTUS ever and 4 years of the second worst POTUS ever and your sorry racist 80 IQ arse wants to blame the "black" president???? Go jump off of a cliff, moron.
Other than your juvenile insults, you haven’t proven me wrong at all.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 12:43
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
The groundwork is already being laid for a pendulum swing, and you can see it in the culture (culture is upstream from politics). Elegant, conservative clothing is very fashionable, with endless tiktok videos instructing women on how to look and behave "old money," "elegant," and "ladylike." The youth are rejecting partying and increasingly adopting more religious attitudes. Longform media is very popular now, and shunning the internet is becoming a flex.
This will hit the left and right alike. The left's "yaasss queen" let-it-all-hang-out vibe, and the right's 4chan troll memefication. The youth see that it's all ugly and empty.
This will hit the left and right alike. The left's "yaasss queen" let-it-all-hang-out vibe, and the right's 4chan troll memefication. The youth see that it's all ugly and empty.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 12:29
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Obama was a good leader and a solid two term POTUS. We are in the midst of a 12 year run being led by 8 years of the worst POTUS ever and 4 years of the second worst POTUS ever and your sorry racist 80 IQ arse wants to blame the "black" president???? Go jump off of a cliff, moron.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 12:06
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Obama was a social engineering experiment and everything went downhill after him.
Obama was about as centrist and middle of the road as you can get. Even his signature health care plan was a Republican plan - back in the day when Republicans still cared about health care. Obama was an extremely successful two term president because he was pragmatic, was guided by common sense, and was a fundamentally decent and empathetic person.
If Democrats could get back to that, they’d win forever. But the Mamdanis and Charles Allen types are the core of the Democratic Party today. And that’s not winning national elections. People really hate the soft on crime, endless illegal immigration, and race based hiring that this generation of Democrats espouse.
Democrats have a policy problem. The Biden years were a disaster for Democrats. And until that gets sorted out, they’re going to have to tough time in national elections - especially once Trump is gone.
I don’t think you understand how much a black president messed up the nation’s psyche. All the decorum goes and anything is possible after that.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 11:36
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:The problem with our politics is that in every election we elect one side, that side screws up while in office, and then the electorate gets mad and punishes the party in power by electing the other side. Every election is won based on the electorate’s negative opinion on the party in power, not their positive opinions about the challenger party.
The problem is that the challenger party, once in office, assumes that they were placed there because the electorate really likes them and all their extremist ideas. So they go about trying to implement their extremist ideas, and the electorate gets mad at them and puts the other party back in power.
At some point the Democrat left will be put back in power. They’ll assume a mandate for their wet dream Democrat left ideas, try to implement them, and promptly be thrown back out.
I think it's more about the absence of leadership from the top. The public turned on Trump and Biden so quickly because they are pathetically weak leaders. We want leadership out of our POTUS; not policy overhauls no one asked for. We should be looking at Congress for necessary policy updates and changes but don't even get me started on our inept and corrupt Congress.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 11:28
Subject: Re:Will the pendulum swing?
The problem with our politics is that in every election we elect one side, that side screws up while in office, and then the electorate gets mad and punishes the party in power by electing the other side. Every election is won based on the electorate’s negative opinion on the party in power, not their positive opinions about the challenger party.
The problem is that the challenger party, once in office, assumes that they were placed there because the electorate really likes them and all their extremist ideas. So they go about trying to implement their extremist ideas, and the electorate gets mad at them and puts the other party back in power.
At some point the Democrat left will be put back in power. They’ll assume a mandate for their wet dream Democrat left ideas, try to implement them, and promptly be thrown back out.
The problem is that the challenger party, once in office, assumes that they were placed there because the electorate really likes them and all their extremist ideas. So they go about trying to implement their extremist ideas, and the electorate gets mad at them and puts the other party back in power.
At some point the Democrat left will be put back in power. They’ll assume a mandate for their wet dream Democrat left ideas, try to implement them, and promptly be thrown back out.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 11:26
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The brighter it burns the faster it dies. You can already feel the shift happening.
Looking deeper in to the recent polls. There are things like do you think Trump is actively making the economy worst. 65% say yes.
Now look at the open corruption, failures and lies. Inflation is through the roof. The job market sues. Israel and Russia are still fighting. Russia is leading Trump around by the noise. The Chinese crushed Trump and then dismissed him. MS media graveling at his feet. Federal agents attacking US citizens. The list is too long too to print. No one believes the country is on the right track.
Everything Trump does is wrong, cost taxpayers tons of money and he does not care about Americans. This is the consistent narrative online.
Trump was fired once. Now everyone remembers why.
All true. And yet Democrats today poll as badly as Trump. That’s a big problem. It’s no wonder party identification is failing off a cliff and everyone is registering independent. People don’t like Democrats either.
Dems poll poorly because no leader has stepped up to right the ship since the Biden disaster. When an appealing leader steps up who can effectively communicate to the American people, Biden will be forgotten in an instant. That's really all people want- a real leader.
Even if Dems don't find an elite leader by 2028, they'll be able to beat the Trump stained GOP with a weak or mediocre candidate like they did in 2020 but let's strive for a two term POTUS this time.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 11:21
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
No. You will do what they tell you.
Anonymous
11/04/2025 11:17
Subject: Will the pendulum swing?
Anonymous wrote:The brighter it burns the faster it dies. You can already feel the shift happening.
Looking deeper in to the recent polls. There are things like do you think Trump is actively making the economy worst. 65% say yes.
Now look at the open corruption, failures and lies. Inflation is through the roof. The job market sues. Israel and Russia are still fighting. Russia is leading Trump around by the noise. The Chinese crushed Trump and then dismissed him. MS media graveling at his feet. Federal agents attacking US citizens. The list is too long too to print. No one believes the country is on the right track.
Everything Trump does is wrong, cost taxpayers tons of money and he does not care about Americans. This is the consistent narrative online.
Trump was fired once. Now everyone remembers why.
All true. And yet Democrats today poll as badly as Trump. That’s a big problem. It’s no wonder party identification is failing off a cliff and everyone is registering independent. People don’t like Democrats either.