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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

My friend’s mom did this and she and her siblings had to beg her not to kill herself. They were stressed for a year hoping she wouldn’t do it, and are now pretty angry.

Otherwise this thread is beyond ageist.

Did she tell them in advance? Who does that?! You just go and do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

My 76-year old sister is still traveling around the world, and is arguably in better health than me (11 years younger).

I keep hearing about it and I know one person like this but most people I know are not healthy many are a burden on their kids. My own parents were completely inadequate by then though they lived alone. I mean at least I didn’t go completely crazy like my mother yet so there’s hope but no guarantee

Not everybody who gets to be old necessarily acquires wisdom. Some do and some don't. Some appear to have learned life lessons and that knowledge may be hard won. They may have been humbled. Others? Not so much. Arrogant people often become arrogant old people. Mean people become mean old people. Unreasonably demanding parents become elderly demanding parents. And often there's no great reckoning that happens at the end, where the person apologizes for their behavior or vows to do better or expresses regret for their actions. I assume that these people who become cuddly old, kind elderly people were probably pretty decent throughout their lives -- so you get a few extra years with someone who was a joy. On the other hand, there are alot of people who really seem to prove that Billy Joel adage that "only the good die young." It sometimes seems like a bit of a cruel joke, that God decides that what you really need is to have your unreasonably cruel, nasty relative around, sapping your energy and saying cruel things when you yourself are in your seventies. You gotta wonder about that.

Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

I have the same plan as well, but I realize that I am speaking for a future person who is different from current me. I am watching my parents declining. Up till 90, they were still joyful, curious and independent . It has been heartbreaking to watch them after that. I am glad they are still around but it is so sad to watch them losing bodily function one by one and especially their joy for life.

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Anonymous wrote:As an older person this thread is horrifying. Guess what - we’re all dying, and everyone’s best years are behind them. So what? Older people still have perspectives and wisdom to offer, if only people didn’t write us off immediately.

No, old demented people don’t have wisdom to share. They are just sucking resources for no good.

So what happens when you become that old person? What shall be done with you?

I am saving my last 50K for a one way trip to Switzerland.

Anonymous wrote:As an older person this thread is horrifying. Guess what - we’re all dying, and everyone’s best years are behind them. So what? Older people still have perspectives and wisdom to offer, if only people didn’t write us off immediately.

People are not talking about writing off elderly, they are talking about how hard to care for adult sized toddlers who have no future. Getting old sucks. I am pumping iron and try to keep my essential muscles. I think I will have to off myself if I start losing my independence.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Some people enjoy caring for their parents. Just like having babies -- some people put them in daycare full time but some actually enjoy taking care of them. Takes all kinds to make the world go round.

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Anonymous wrote:As an older person this thread is horrifying. Guess what - we’re all dying, and everyone’s best years are behind them. So what? Older people still have perspectives and wisdom to offer, if only people didn’t write us off immediately.

No, old demented people don’t have wisdom to share. They are just sucking resources for no good.

Yikes. They raised you so on some level they must really suck.

My elderly parent is charming and adorable. It's really weird. A lot of people fall under the influence of it. Not all babies are cute either, OP. Maybe it's just your parent.

I mean the only way you can take care of the elderly is if you quit your job. They go to dozens of doctor appts and often can't be left alone. If there were daycare centers they could go to, that would be totally different and more manageable.

I think all these mean, ageist threads are trolls.

Caring for the elderly is a responsibility like caring for babies, though it’s harder in many ways that have been discussed. Helplessness and dependency are part of the human experience. It’s normal to feel resentment sometimes, but unrealistic to expect it to disappear.

Anonymous wrote:As an older person this thread is horrifying. Guess what - we’re all dying, and everyone’s best years are behind them. So what? Older people still have perspectives and wisdom to offer, if only people didn’t write us off immediately.

Isn't it great to know the generation of mostly women we have raised?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

I know I won’t be like them, because I’ll be dead by then.