Anonymous wrote:This is not the fault of the faculty who are frustrated, or the students who can't cope with rigor. If they were admitted, it's been taken for granted that they have what it takes to succeed with rigorous classes. If a large number of admitted students are trying but can't cope, it is a problem with the admissions process, and admissions officers need to learn to do better to admit students who are academically prepared for a rigorous college education.
Anonymous wrote:they don’t place as much weight on being academically prepared as they used to. the current social engineering crusade is more focused on choosing diamonds in the rough. maybe a generation ago, they would go deeper into the ranks at a top feeder hs, knowing these kids made it through a tough HS curriculum,
but now, preference is given to say a valedictorian at a podunk rural HS with SAT of 1300/school average 900, versus like a top 15% at a place like TJ or Stuyvesant and SAT 1550+, because they think it’s less “impressive”. Whereas I’d say the TJ kid likely had a much much harder high school experience, and is still being judged by higher
standards.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About a quarter of students at Harvard are prepared for the rigor. They are not admitting kids who are academically prepared.
Is that why your kids won’t be accepted? The problem is this age group. They normalized non-gender, safe space, they are dramatic and almost everything causes them anxiety. They are open about their mental health issues and discuss them loudly. This is a generalization but not uncommon.
Don’t worry about Harvard students. They’ll be fine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also need to focus on the professor side of the coin: general disinterest in teaching undergrads and lack of engagement with them. Harvard is known for that, and I believe it's the primary reason the UG reputation is rather weak.
Not sure how Harvard does it but they need to get rid of teacher evaluations by students. There's a correlation with poor effort and lack of attendance leading to poor evaluations when grades inevitably suffer.
You must be a prof
Absolutely agree. The teaching evaluations have no merit and just feed the entitlement of students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also need to focus on the professor side of the coin: general disinterest in teaching undergrads and lack of engagement with them. Harvard is known for that, and I believe it's the primary reason the UG reputation is rather weak.
Not sure how Harvard does it but they need to get rid of teacher evaluations by students. There's a correlation with poor effort and lack of attendance leading to poor evaluations when grades inevitably suffer.
Anonymous wrote:Do any of you actually have a student at Harvard?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is not the fault of the faculty who are frustrated, or the students who can't cope with rigor. If they were admitted, it's been taken for granted that they have what it takes to succeed with rigorous classes. If a large number of admitted students are trying but can't cope, it is a problem with the admissions process, and admissions officers need to learn to do better to admit students who are academically prepared for a rigorous college education.
SAT/ ACT scores were required for this years freshman class. Test optional is over
If they only made the SAT test reasonably difficult and also required, all of these dumb kids who can't earn an A in social sciences would have been weeded out from the start already. Coincidence that now that there's pressure to do away with AA and DEI, suddenly standards are raised? Seriously, in the information age, how could anyone with a functioning brain do poorly at any of these regurgitative majors? And if you're here to dispute what was just written, count yourself among that group.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They also need to focus on the professor side of the coin: general disinterest in teaching undergrads and lack of engagement with them. Harvard is known for that, and I believe it's the primary reason the UG reputation is rather weak.
Not sure how Harvard does it but they need to get rid of teacher evaluations by students. There's a correlation with poor effort and lack of attendance leading to poor evaluations when grades inevitably suffer.
Anonymous wrote:if there were less grade inflation across the board, students would have less pressure and feel that they needed to maintain perfect grades. It’s a paradoxical effect where by making high school
and college easier, well meaning administrators have actually made things more stressful. The Atlantic actually had an article about this not too long ago.
Anonymous wrote:They also need to focus on the professor side of the coin: general disinterest in teaching undergrads and lack of engagement with them. Harvard is known for that, and I believe it's the primary reason the UG reputation is rather weak.
Anonymous wrote:This is not the fault of the faculty who are frustrated, or the students who can't cope with rigor. If they were admitted, it's been taken for granted that they have what it takes to succeed with rigorous classes. If a large number of admitted students are trying but can't cope, it is a problem with the admissions process, and admissions officers need to learn to do better to admit students who are academically prepared for a rigorous college education.