Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely a demand issue. The Reuters story makes that clear:

“ Amazon (AMZN.O), opens new tab is planning to cut as many as 30,000 corporate jobs beginning on Tuesday, as the company pares expenses and compensates for overhiring during the peak demand of the pandemic, according to three people familiar with the matter.”

That's just Amazon lying. They already had a big pandemic layoff in 2022.

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Anonymous wrote:And we are hiring without experience. Paying $30-40 an hour and still can't find workers.
They just need to find us.

care to share who you are?

Disregard this poster. They are the one who pops up on every thread plugging restaurants. They also claim to have some obscene amount of money in the stock market despite working a minimum wage job their entire life.

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely a demand issue. The Reuters story makes that clear:

“ Amazon (AMZN.O), opens new tab is planning to cut as many as 30,000 corporate jobs beginning on Tuesday, as the company pares expenses and compensates for overhiring during the peak demand of the pandemic, according to three people familiar with the matter.”

Yeah, we cancelled because of Bezos and haven't looked back. TBH, don't miss it at all and have been happier without all the junk.

^PP. Re: the above...there's a difference between "AI can do your job" and "We cut your job because we'd rather spend money on AI initiatives".

Anonymous wrote:I spoke to a friend in an unrelated industry and AI is eliminating the need for middle management. Their company is just waiting for people to leave and not rehiring vs doing a mass layoff.

I don't really believe this.

Middle management is eliminating the need for middle management. And I am in that layer. In the absence of boom times, people notice the functions that don't add measurable value.

The uncertainty and policy reversals of the current administration are driving the biggest changes in my industry. It's not AI. We wanted to use AI for a new project/application this year and it's not suitable. There are experimental applications of LLMs but they create analytical tools rather than replacing humans.

14k layoffs announced.

We'll see if more follow.

https://wtop.com/national/2025/10/amazon-cuts-14000-corporate-jobs-as-spending-on-artificial-intelligence-accelerates/

Anonymous wrote:And we are hiring without experience. Paying $30-40 an hour and still can't find workers.
They just need to find us.

care to share who you are?

And we are hiring without experience. Paying $30-40 an hour and still can't find workers.
They just need to find us.

Amazon lays off 30,000 workers, yet prioritized donating to Trump's White House Ballroom boondoggle.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ballroom-donors-white-house-stand-to-gain/
Tech giants Google, Palantir, Amazon and Microsoft, as well as cell phone carrier T-Mobile, were among the donors listed by the White House.

Senators are demanding answers from Big Tech companies accused of "filing thousands of H-1B skilled labor visa petitions after conducting mass layoffs of American employees." In letters sent to Amazon, Meta, Apple, Google, and Microsoft -- among some of the largest sponsors of H-1B visas -- Senators Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) requested "information and data from each company regarding their recruitment and hiring practices, as well as any variation in salary and benefits between H-1B visa holders and American employees."

The letters came shortly after Grassley sent a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem requesting that DHS stop "issuing work authorizations to student visa holders." According to Grassley, "foreign student work authorizations put America at risk of technological and corporate espionage," in addition to allegedly "contributing to rising unemployment rates among college-educated Americans."

And yet Warner and kaine love h1bs. They are the epitome of why democrats continue to lose , they hate US workers and do NOTHING to help stop the h1b and Optional Practical Training visas used to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor

Warner and Kaine - Do something instead of hiding !!!!!

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The Optional Practical Training (OPT) for foreign students who have graduated from American universities allows all foreign graduates to receive a 12-month work permit, but STEM graduates are eligible for an additional 24-month work permit.  Businesses are using this program to circumvent H-1B visa caps and American and legal immigrant graduates are losing out:

OPT has grown more than 400% in recent years and is bigger than the H-1B program.
From 2007 to 2017, employers hired 2.5 million OPT and CPT workers.
Employers don't have to pay payroll taxes on OPT employees, making them 15.3% cheaper to hire.  The FICA fund loses out on $2.5 billion each year due to this.

FICA is used to fund Medicare and Social Security, something a temporary worker is not entitled to receive.

Would it be better if we pay to train these fresh graduates and then kick them out, meaning they provide no economic output to the US?

Better that than have our own citizens be unemployed after finishing their education.

If you want to discourage American students from studying science and tech.

You replace them with foreign OPT students that are exempt from payroll taxes, accept lower wages, and are easy to exploit.

OPT is H-1B. Same game, different name.

It’s definitely a demand issue. The Reuters story makes that clear:

“ Amazon (AMZN.O), opens new tab is planning to cut as many as 30,000 corporate jobs beginning on Tuesday, as the company pares expenses and compensates for overhiring during the peak demand of the pandemic, according to three people familiar with the matter.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Optional Practical Training (OPT) for foreign students who have graduated from American universities allows all foreign graduates to receive a 12-month work permit, but STEM graduates are eligible for an additional 24-month work permit.  Businesses are using this program to circumvent H-1B visa caps and American and legal immigrant graduates are losing out:

OPT has grown more than 400% in recent years and is bigger than the H-1B program.
From 2007 to 2017, employers hired 2.5 million OPT and CPT workers.
Employers don't have to pay payroll taxes on OPT employees, making them 15.3% cheaper to hire.  The FICA fund loses out on $2.5 billion each year due to this.

FICA is used to fund Medicare and Social Security, something a temporary worker is not entitled to receive.

Would it be better if we pay to train these fresh graduates and then kick them out, meaning they provide no economic output to the US?

Better that than have our own citizens be unemployed after finishing their education.

Is AWS affected too?

Anonymous wrote:Sighhh spouse works there. Just praying they are not impacted.

I suspect we will be. But, we expect to have a job loss with Amazon and plan for it.