Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
You're an anonymous person on the Internet--and not a particularly accurate one at that. No one knows if you're truly a teacher, and if you were, you would recognize that you're not in every MCPS classroom in every school, and that yes, there are classes with 1:1 aides.
And so are you. No one said there are NOT any aides. It’s harder and harder to obtain proper funding and staff.
Public education is slowly being dismantled and we are seeing the effects of it now.
Stop arguing. Accept the reality that is here.
If you're a teacher, I'm sorry for your students having someone who can't coherently respond without saying "stop arguing." No one said it was easy to obtain proper funding and staff. But your exaggerations that "no one" wants to be a 1:1 aide, and that these aides largely no longer not exist is inaccurate and disrespectful to the people who work in these roles.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
You're an anonymous person on the Internet--and not a particularly accurate one at that. No one knows if you're truly a teacher, and if you were, you would recognize that you're not in every MCPS classroom in every school, and that yes, there are classes with 1:1 aides.
And so are you. No one said there are NOT any aides. It’s harder and harder to obtain proper funding and staff.
Public education is slowly being dismantled and we are seeing the effects of it now.
Stop arguing. Accept the reality that is here.
If you're a teacher, I'm sorry for your students having someone who can't coherently respond without saying "stop arguing." No one said it was easy to obtain proper funding and staff. But your exaggerations that "no one" wants to be a 1:1 aide, and that these aides largely no longer not exist is inaccurate and disrespectful to the people who work in these roles.
Anonymous wrote:Right now they are gatekeeping all of the elementary programs and keeping even very significant problems in the classroom. These include kids 5 grade levels below (5th graders who can’t read sight words and 3rd graders who can’t identify all numbers) and severe behavior issues. These include past couple of years it has gotten so ridiculous- it is not surprising that the complaints increased.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
Obviously, this is not the type of child I am talking about, nor did I say that it is always bad to have special needs children in class- my own child has an IEP. I am speaking about kids without 1-1's who have severe behaviors, or are so many grade levels below. It is a different world from what your child experienced.
The subject of this offensive thread is about the logic of having special ed students in gen ed classrooms. If your child has an IEP, I'm not sure why you would be complaining about special needs kids in gen ed classrooms, because your kid is one of them. Even if you see your child as superior to "other kids with special needs", other parents with neurotypical kids may feel the same way about your kid with an IEP, and that they're disproportionately absorbing teacher time. It's a slippery slope, so hopefully you can provide a little grace to kids, and not go down the dangerous path of advocating that only neurotypical kids are allowed in gen ed classrooms.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
You're an anonymous person on the Internet--and not a particularly accurate one at that. No one knows if you're truly a teacher, and if you were, you would recognize that you're not in every MCPS classroom in every school, and that yes, there are classes with 1:1 aides.
And so are you. No one said there are NOT any aides. It’s harder and harder to obtain proper funding and staff.
Public education is slowly being dismantled and we are seeing the effects of it now.
Stop arguing. Accept the reality that is here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
You're an anonymous person on the Internet--and not a particularly accurate one at that. No one knows if you're truly a teacher, and if you were, you would recognize that you're not in every MCPS classroom in every school, and that yes, there are classes with 1:1 aides.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
You're an anonymous person on the Internet--and not a particularly accurate one at that. No one knows if you're truly a teacher, and if you were, you would recognize that you're not in every MCPS classroom in every school, and that yes, there are classes with 1:1 aides.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Please stop. It’s odd how you are arguing about something that actual teachers are telling you is no longer in existence. This is a huge issue. And it’s getting worse. No one is going to write a report just on MCPS. This is not an op-ed piece. This is an independently funded organization that provides actual data and analysis of policy changes that affect our most vulnerable populations.
Let the teachers talk please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Did you even read what you posted? It’s an op-ed from Urban Wire that does not mention MCPS or 1:1 aides. None of this bolsters your anecdotes, or makes your anecdotes superior to the other anecdotes posted on this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Just speaking the truth; not trying to argue. It’s not anecdotal. The funding is not there to pay people properly and it’s disappearing as fast as this administration can dismantle the Department of Education.
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/how-dismantling-education-department-could-affect-disabled-students-across-us
Go to bed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.
Yet we’re supposed to believe that your anecdote is the new normal?![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any teachers who have not seen the change are just lucky at this point. When you have a student that makes it impossible to teach, yet the county refuses to move them, EVERY child and adult in the classroom are affected.
OP- you are not imagining things. Students with severe disabilities are much more mainstream than they were even 2 years ago.
That's not true. My oldest kid (now nearly completing high school) had a blind child with cerebral palsy starting in their K class, so this is now over a decade ago. The child had a 1:1 aide--and the teacher said she loved that because that aide could lend a hand if needed as there were always 2 adults in the classroom, which is a gift.
Yes, some kids have special needs--but you're being very closed minded to think that it's always a bad thing to have those special needs kids in class. The child I mention was a lovely kid--certainly better behaved than some of the neurotypical MCPS kids I've met. My kid still remembers how they taught him a little Braille so that he could understand how he blind child was learning to read.
It’s very hard for students to get 1:1 support now. This is happening. And believe me, if a teacher wants to call the police because of immediate safety concerns, they will be disciplined. Ask me how I know.
I'm sure it was hard to get a 1:1 support 12 years ago too. But it still happens today. I've seen it in my kids' classroom where there are extra adults when there are kids with severe needs.
It’s very hard to get 1:1 now because no one wants to do this. Your anecdotal experience is not the new normal.