Anonymous wrote:DD’s friend group has decided to be Disney princesses. Apparently the new way to each be a princess is to wear a corset and a mini skirt.

I absolutely dislike the idea of a corset more than a skimpy skirt. To me it’s just too grown up. However - I’m up against four other parents who are all for and okay with the costume. They think it’s fine.

The girls are all 15.

Tell me if I am being unreasonable. I’m willing to see things from a different point of view. It is only one night after all.

The costume example:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUTE-ORyooHYHEmJFB10t16I4GwDbNL5RfDm_ZZv4ajQ&s=10

My kid is younger but man, I shuddered involuntarily at the costume. Yeah pick your battles but I find the skimpy clothes thing disturbing. I don’t know how it should be handled in general but prob fine for one night?

Anonymous wrote:This is a stupid idea. It doesn’t even look like a costume. People will keep asking them, what are you?

+1 Lacks creativity of any sort. What character are they exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks PPs! For those that asked, my concern is more that it reads to me that it plays into the “I am sexy” I think of with Playboy costumes etc.. but as a minor. Corsets are to pull you in and push you up to be sexy IMO.

I was a teen who changed clothes in the mall bathroom from what my mom knew I had on and this was in the Y2K era I had a thong showing in class for boys to think I was sexy. I cringe looking back but I’m trying to raise my daughter to not do these things.

Now I’m at this spot over a costume and was really questioning am I overreacting or are these corset ones ok to wear as a child, a teen.

You did what you wanted and escaped a lecture. Presumably you felt good about your looks while wearing your silly underwear.

Letting your daughter do this (without hiding from you) but with a side of feminist commentary, is progress of a sort.

The sneakers do destroy the hotness. Also girls with crowns aren't necessarily what boys are interested in. I think it's a dumbed down enough costume.

Also girls with crowns aren't necessarily what boys are interested in. I think it's a dumbed down enough costume.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what you mean by this.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks PPs! For those that asked, my concern is more that it reads to me that it plays into the “I am sexy” I think of with Playboy costumes etc.. but as a minor. Corsets are to pull you in and push you up to be sexy IMO.

I was a teen who changed clothes in the mall bathroom from what my mom knew I had on and this was in the Y2K era I had a thong showing in class for boys to think I was sexy. I cringe looking back but I’m trying to raise my daughter to not do these things.

Now I’m at this spot over a costume and was really questioning am I overreacting or are these corset ones ok to wear as a child, a teen.

You did what you wanted and escaped a lecture. Presumably you felt good about your looks while wearing your silly underwear.

Letting your daughter do this (without hiding from you) but with a side of feminist commentary, is progress of a sort.

The sneakers do destroy the hotness. Also girls with crowns aren't necessarily what boys are interested in. I think it's a dumbed down enough costume.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks PPs! For those that asked, my concern is more that it reads to me that it plays into the “I am sexy” I think of with Playboy costumes etc.. but as a minor. Corsets are to pull you in and push you up to be sexy IMO.

I was a teen who changed clothes in the mall bathroom from what my mom knew I had on and this was in the Y2K era I had a thong showing in class for boys to think I was sexy. I cringe looking back but I’m trying to raise my daughter to not do these things.

Now I’m at this spot over a costume and was really questioning am I overreacting or are these corset ones ok to wear as a child, a teen.

But... these are not those corsets. The kind you're talking about need serious boning and tight-lacing. You need to rid yourself of the idea that every corset has a sexual message. In time periods when tween and teens were in corsets, they were used in place of today's bra, and did not tighten the waist or push out breasts unless the girls attained marriageable age and attended an evening ball specifically to find a husband. Everyday corsets were much more comfortable and breathable than what people imagine.

If your child is on the slender side, I don't think many people will see this as you are afraid they will. The problems arise if young girls develop serious curves and want to wear revealing clothes. Then it gets dicey and we can have a debate about how much is on the audience to control themselves, and how much is on the wearer (and their parents) to be conscious of their body.

Anonymous wrote:DD’s friend group has decided to be Disney princesses. Apparently the new way to each be a princess is to wear a corset and a mini skirt.

I absolutely dislike the idea of a corset more than a skimpy skirt. To me it’s just too grown up. However - I’m up against four other parents who are all for and okay with the costume. They think it’s fine.

The girls are all 15.

Tell me if I am being unreasonable. I’m willing to see things from a different point of view. It is only one night after all.

The costume example:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUTE-ORyooHYHEmJFB10t16I4GwDbNL5RfDm_ZZv4ajQ&s=10

Choose your battles.

Plus, haven’t you seen the Lindsay Lohan version of mean girls - Halloween is the opportunity to dress like a slut and not have it count negatively socially.

Anonymous wrote:I am grudgingly letting my 14yo wear one as part of a pirate costume--but it's being worn over a shirt.

Same, but my daughter is 12. It's a costume, who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is bizarre. Those are not Disney princess outfits and these girls are too old to trick or treat.
If you give in make sure you supervise closely because it could get ugly.

In my Bethesda neighborhood, some teens go ToT, and some teens hand out candy. Then they go to parties. My 15 year old is going ToT with her friend. They have plans for a horror movie watch party with other friends afterwards.

Op here. Yes similar here - Football game, TOT and a movie at a friends home afterwards.

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is bizarre. Those are not Disney princess outfits and these girls are too old to trick or treat.
If you give in make sure you supervise closely because it could get ugly.

In my Bethesda neighborhood, some teens go ToT, and some teens hand out candy. Then they go to parties. My 15 year old is going ToT with her friend. They have plans for a horror movie watch party with other friends afterwards.

Op here. Thanks PPs! For those that asked, my concern is more that it reads to me that it plays into the “I am sexy” I think of with Playboy costumes etc.. but as a minor. Corsets are to pull you in and push you up to be sexy IMO.

I was a teen who changed clothes in the mall bathroom from what my mom knew I had on and this was in the Y2K era I had a thong showing in class for boys to think I was sexy. I cringe looking back but I’m trying to raise my daughter to not do these things.

Now I’m at this spot over a costume and was really questioning am I overreacting or are these corset ones ok to wear as a child, a teen.

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Anonymous wrote:The look will depend on the shape of your DD. These girls look fine because they don't have huge chests, the tops look pretty loose and offer a fair amount of coverage. It would be different on a bigger girl.

Hope for a cold night.
Include a feather boa or cape to increase coverage.

+1 These girls don't look sexed up because they don't have bosoms. I would have looked like a $3 hooker in any of these outfits in high school because I had big boobs and was hourglassy. It's not fair but it's reality - straight figured girls can wear much more risque outfits without consequences.

Without consequences? What does that mean?

Catcalling, being assumed to be older by adult men and having to deal with the awkwardness that comes from being hit on by them when you're barely old enough to flirt, repercussions at school for dress code violations when other girls are wearing identical clothes but filling them out differently, the list goes on.

Add yo this looking like a bimbo and reputation. And you do realize there are dangerous men out there who would see this as an invitation?

Yes, unreasonable.

Maybe she needs new friends. My daughters siblings would mock her if she wore this and talk her out if it. Embarrassing.

Anonymous wrote:This is a stupid idea. It doesn’t even look like a costume. People will keep asking them, what are you?

What people are you imagining? This is not for Trick or Treating. They are probably going to a HS party with kegs. Asking "who are you?" is a conversation opener. And the costume aspect is so much less important than the revealing aspect for these costumes. It's like a dumb basic thing that you just are anything so long as it's a little slutty. There was just a SNL joke last week on Weekend Update from The Couple You Can't Believe Are Together.

This whole thing is bizarre. Those are not Disney princess outfits and these girls are too old to trick or treat.
If you give in make sure you supervise closely because it could get ugly.