Anonymous
10/16/2025 19:55
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I work for the FBI and am glad agents are being paid but really upset and frustrated for the rest of the workforce. Exempt, excepted, essential whatever and working everyday. Way to divide the workforce and prolong shutdown. Just want this to end. There is no end in site and no one seems to be working toward a budget or solution. I am tired of being sacrificed for budget and honestly subsidies that were never meant to be permanent. This shutdown feels very different and I fear will go long term.
How come no one says extending the tax cuts that the Republicans just extended were not meant to be extended?
Anonymous
10/16/2025 19:55
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:I have heard rumors that some law enforcement agents may continue to receive pay during the shutdown, in addition to the military. I wouldn't be surprised if TSA employees are included as well. Could addressing these pain points be an effective strategy for managing a longer shutdown?
Absolutely. From R’s perspective, it’s the best strategy. D’s hands are really tied on this. For all other feds not supported by this, it’s a terrible news.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 19:53
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Trump will find ways to pay certain employees and will let the rest go. I don't believe the government will reopen as it was when it shutdown. Certain agencies may never reopen.
Of course it's not legal, but that isnt stopping Trump. I'm most curious about how it will play out when someone else tries to reverse it. It's going to be a full on mess.
If I were a Fed I would for sure find other work. I don't believe the jobs will remain open for you to come back to.
Are we allowed to find other work? At my agency all outside work has to be approved, even Target jobs. I am getting concerned that I won’t have a job to come back to. I am a presidential priority (although not life and safety). If they want to fire me, just do it. Give me my severance and I’ll go.
I am not a Fed but if I were I would not care one bit about guidelines. If you find another job you like, you will quit your current one. If you find an hourly role and then are miraculously called back, who is going to ask or know that you worked at Target? I would not sit around waiting for something to maybe happen. Move on if you can.
This. I will never understand the loyalty and rule-following that some hold onto when the same courtesy is not extended to them. Currently, the only person I care about is myself. Should I land another job, I have zero intention of giving two weeks' notice. I will quit the very next day. Learn to make yourself number one.
The loyalty and rule following are a feature and not a bug in the federal workforce, which is turning out to be a detriment.
I'm a Fed and my blood is beginning to boil.
The "President" is allowed to sell cryptocoins, take a Qatari Jet, plaster his name all over resorts all over the world, but I, a tiny cog in the Federal Machine, cannot work at Target to pay for groceries while my miserable employer refuses to pay me.
Yes, look out for yourself and figure out how to handle it later. I cannot imagine anyone is going to have the time or mind to track this down.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 19:30
Subject: Re:Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And Trump has said that a “very wealthy” person has offered to help pay military paychecks. So the military and Trump himself would be indebted to a very wealthy — possibly not American— person? That takes selling out the country way beyond anything I could imagine. I’m also wondering who it might be. There’s apparently no bottom with how low this scum can go when it comes to destruction.
https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/10/14/trump-wealthy-person-cover-military-paychecks-shutdown/
Hopefully not Musk
This is giving J.P. Morgan "paid out" America during the Gilded Age by acting as a de facto central banker to prevent financial collapse vibes.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 19:23
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First of all what is this question in this forum? Second, that’s precisely his plan because he doesn’t need a govt to get done what he wants. Welcome to authoritarianism. Enjoy your stay.
Basically. With that whole Fork nonsense and now the political messaging on government sites, all of my fellow rule following feds were sitting around wondering if this is legal or allowed as if it matters anymore.
This feels like another social experiment. Watching people not quickly adjusting to new norms is mind-blowing. Every time I hear someone say "But, but, but that's illegal!" or see them apply yesterday's logic to today's illogic, I am taken aback. Figure out your next steps. You are on your own now.
+1 I’m operating under the assumption that I’m not getting back pay. Maybe that is over reacting, but I would rather save now than be in pain later. If you think you need a second job to make ends meet then people need to do it and worry about ethics paperwork later.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 17:50
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First of all what is this question in this forum? Second, that’s precisely his plan because he doesn’t need a govt to get done what he wants. Welcome to authoritarianism. Enjoy your stay.
Basically. With that whole Fork nonsense and now the political messaging on government sites, all of my fellow rule following feds were sitting around wondering if this is legal or allowed as if it matters anymore.
This feels like another social experiment. Watching people not quickly adjusting to new norms is mind-blowing. Every time I hear someone say "But, but, but that's illegal!" or see them apply yesterday's logic to today's illogic, I am taken aback. Figure out your next steps. You are on your own now.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 17:07
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:First of all what is this question in this forum? Second, that’s precisely his plan because he doesn’t need a govt to get done what he wants. Welcome to authoritarianism. Enjoy your stay.
Basically. With that whole Fork nonsense and now the political messaging on government sites, all of my fellow rule following feds were sitting around wondering if this is legal or allowed as if it matters anymore.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 17:05
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:CONGRESS should not be paid since they have failed to do their jobs. At any other company, failure to do your job to the point that the ‘company’ shuts down would result in termination.
100%. Put also make sure to pull their health insurance.
Agreed. Congressional paychecks only go out after a budget (not a CR) is passed every year. That's their job. They aren't doing it.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 17:04
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:States shouldn't get money either. Medicare and SS should stop to. IF those things happened this shutdown would have lasted two minutes.
Then it would be a real shutdown.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 17:02
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
First of all what is this question in this forum? Second, that’s precisely his plan because he doesn’t need a govt to get done what he wants. Welcome to authoritarianism. Enjoy your stay.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 16:45
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Trump will find ways to pay certain employees and will let the rest go. I don't believe the government will reopen as it was when it shutdown. Certain agencies may never reopen.
Of course it's not legal, but that isnt stopping Trump. I'm most curious about how it will play out when someone else tries to reverse it. It's going to be a full on mess.
If I were a Fed I would for sure find other work. I don't believe the jobs will remain open for you to come back to.
Are we allowed to find other work? At my agency all outside work has to be approved, even Target jobs. I am getting concerned that I won’t have a job to come back to. I am a presidential priority (although not life and safety). If they want to fire me, just do it. Give me my severance and I’ll go.
I am not a Fed but if I were I would not care one bit about guidelines. If you find another job you like, you will quit your current one. If you find an hourly role and then are miraculously called back, who is going to ask or know that you worked at Target? I would not sit around waiting for something to maybe happen. Move on if you can.
This. I will never understand the loyalty and rule-following that some hold onto when the same courtesy is not extended to them. Currently, the only person I care about is myself. Should I land another job, I have zero intention of giving two weeks' notice. I will quit the very next day. Learn to make yourself number one.
The loyalty and rule following are a feature and not a bug in the federal workforce, which is turning out to be a detriment.
I'm a Fed and my blood is beginning to boil.
The "President" is allowed to sell cryptocoins, take a Qatari Jet, plaster his name all over resorts all over the world, but I, a tiny cog in the Federal Machine, cannot work at Target to pay for groceries while my miserable employer refuses to pay me.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 16:41
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Trump will find ways to pay certain employees and will let the rest go. I don't believe the government will reopen as it was when it shutdown. Certain agencies may never reopen.
Of course it's not legal, but that isnt stopping Trump. I'm most curious about how it will play out when someone else tries to reverse it. It's going to be a full on mess.
If I were a Fed I would for sure find other work. I don't believe the jobs will remain open for you to come back to.
Are we allowed to find other work? At my agency all outside work has to be approved, even Target jobs. I am getting concerned that I won’t have a job to come back to. I am a presidential priority (although not life and safety). If they want to fire me, just do it. Give me my severance and I’ll go.
I am not a Fed but if I were I would not care one bit about guidelines. If you find another job you like, you will quit your current one. If you find an hourly role and then are miraculously called back, who is going to ask or know that you worked at Target? I would not sit around waiting for something to maybe happen. Move on if you can.
This. I will never understand the loyalty and rule-following that some hold onto when the same courtesy is not extended to them. Currently, the only person I care about is myself. Should I land another job, I have zero intention of giving two weeks' notice. I will quit the very next day. Learn to make yourself number one.
The loyalty and rule following are a feature and not a bug in the federal workforce, which is turning out to be a detriment.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 16:28
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Trump will find ways to pay certain employees and will let the rest go. I don't believe the government will reopen as it was when it shutdown. Certain agencies may never reopen.
Of course it's not legal, but that isnt stopping Trump. I'm most curious about how it will play out when someone else tries to reverse it. It's going to be a full on mess.
If I were a Fed I would for sure find other work. I don't believe the jobs will remain open for you to come back to.
Are we allowed to find other work? At my agency all outside work has to be approved, even Target jobs. I am getting concerned that I won’t have a job to come back to. I am a presidential priority (although not life and safety). If they want to fire me, just do it. Give me my severance and I’ll go.
I am not a Fed but if I were I would not care one bit about guidelines. If you find another job you like, you will quit your current one. If you find an hourly role and then are miraculously called back, who is going to ask or know that you worked at Target? I would not sit around waiting for something to maybe happen. Move on if you can.
This. I will never understand the loyalty and rule-following that some hold onto when the same courtesy is not extended to them. Currently, the only person I care about is myself. Should I land another job, I have zero intention of giving two weeks' notice. I will quit the very next day. Learn to make yourself number one.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 16:21
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:CONGRESS should not be paid since they have failed to do their jobs. At any other company, failure to do your job to the point that the ‘company’ shuts down would result in termination.
100%. Put also make sure to pull their health insurance.
Anonymous
10/16/2025 16:15
Subject: Could paying certain feds be a strategy for managing a prolonged shutdown?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Trump will find ways to pay certain employees and will let the rest go. I don't believe the government will reopen as it was when it shutdown. Certain agencies may never reopen.
Of course it's not legal, but that isnt stopping Trump. I'm most curious about how it will play out when someone else tries to reverse it. It's going to be a full on mess.
If I were a Fed I would for sure find other work. I don't believe the jobs will remain open for you to come back to.
Are we allowed to find other work? At my agency all outside work has to be approved, even Target jobs. I am getting concerned that I won’t have a job to come back to. I am a presidential priority (although not life and safety). If they want to fire me, just do it. Give me my severance and I’ll go.
I am not a Fed but if I were I would not care one bit about guidelines. If you find another job you like, you will quit your current one. If you find an hourly role and then are miraculously called back, who is going to ask or know that you worked at Target? I would not sit around waiting for something to maybe happen. Move on if you can.
If you are certain it isn’t an ethics violation I would just do it and figure it out later. With how things are going this is going to drag into November. There seems to be very little movement on a bill passing.