Anonymous
10/27/2025 18:53
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:+1
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
City Journal is a right-wing propaganda rag.
We've already had threads on how Mississippi "improved" 4th grade reading scores by reclassifying 4th graders as 3rd graders.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 18:27
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Taking the highest level of math your high school offers is important if you want to be a STEM major. (I think this is more of an issue with small weird privates than publics in rural areas.)
Sure, but Pre-Calc is the highest available in multiple down state VA public school systems.
So what? Families in Northern Virginia have invested years of effort to move from rural communities, both local and international, and build access to advanced learning. I’m part of that story, UMR family with resolve.
Racial equity counsels calculus does not belong in any Virginia high school, and particularly not in the NOVA area:
F for comprehension. There is no mention of calculus not belonging in those schools just that not ALL kids need to take calculus and that every child should have access to the level of maths that they need. That’s fine, not everyone needs or wants calculus.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 16:08
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:+1
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
That is what I thought and now we have confirmation. High school calculus is generally more common in Red States compared to Blue States, as Red States have implemented reforms that have improved educational outcomes, including access to advanced math courses like calculus. In contrast, Blue States have seen declines in math scores and may have less emphasis on advanced math courses due to emphasis on educational equity of outcome.
True.
California and other west coast states have (not surprisingly) lead the way on reducing advanced math in public school. This article from The Atlantic provides some background: California limited Algebra to 9th grade and not before.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/california-math-framework-algebra/675509/
Anonymous
10/27/2025 15:10
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:+1
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
This article is so full of misinformation I don’t even know where to start. What is this junk?
Anonymous
10/27/2025 15:09
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
+1
If you don't take the highest level of math your hs offers, you probably aren't the kind of person who would be engaged enough to stick with a stem major. I hold the same view about humanities. If you don't take AP English, extra foreign language, and elective himanities courses in hs, assuming your school offers such things, are you really cut out for a humanities major in college?
So if you don’t take AP Calc or AP English or a foreign language, just don’t go to college?
Sounds like your college didn’t educate you right.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 15:09
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:+1
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
That is what I thought and now we have confirmation. High school calculus is generally more common in Red States compared to Blue States, as Red States have implemented reforms that have improved educational outcomes, including access to advanced math courses like calculus. In contrast, Blue States have seen declines in math scores and may have less emphasis on advanced math courses due to emphasis on educational equity of outcome.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 15:04
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
+1
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
Read this article for starters
https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states
Anonymous
10/27/2025 15:02
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Not in most states. In blue states all publics offer it. The red states are the problem.
Why do you tell blatant and easily disproven lies? Just look at NYC and Seattle PS (as blue as they come) where democrats intentionally dismantled their equivalent of the AAP program.
The party opposed to HS calculus is the same party citing “equity” for dismantling AAP wherever possible (ie- the democratic party).
Anonymous
10/27/2025 14:33
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Not in most states. In blue states all publics offer it. The red states are the problem.
I have friends in Red States who take Calculus in HS. Some of it depends on the size of the student body and the make up of the student body. But Calculus is taught across the country, regardless of red or blue.
Calculus will continue to be taught in Virginia, regardless of who is elected Governor.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 14:21
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Not in most states. In blue states all publics offer it. The red states are the problem.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 14:18
Subject: Re:Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:VPMI is dead, even though there is a poster who wants to scream about them where ever possible.
The push to get more kids into Algebra 1 earlier then before is massive, see the 6th grade Algebra 1 pilot. Or dropping the IAAT and placing any kid who passed the SOL advanced into Algebra 1H in 7th grade, even when the student selected 7H. Parents were having to opt out kids who had already opted out of A1H in 7th grade.
If we are able to get Abigail Spanberger into the governorship of Virginia, she will finally be able to implement equity in mathematics education by signing the VMPI and making it the rule for every VA high school.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 13:18
Subject: Re:Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
VPMI is dead, even though there is a poster who wants to scream about them where ever possible.
The push to get more kids into Algebra 1 earlier then before is massive, see the 6th grade Algebra 1 pilot. Or dropping the IAAT and placing any kid who passed the SOL advanced into Algebra 1H in 7th grade, even when the student selected 7H. Parents were having to opt out kids who had already opted out of A1H in 7th grade.
The push to get more kids into Algebra 1 earlier then before is massive, see the 6th grade Algebra 1 pilot. Or dropping the IAAT and placing any kid who passed the SOL advanced into Algebra 1H in 7th grade, even when the student selected 7H. Parents were having to opt out kids who had already opted out of A1H in 7th grade.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 03:06
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Taking the highest level of math your high school offers is important if you want to be a STEM major. (I think this is more of an issue with small weird privates than publics in rural areas.)
Sure, but Pre-Calc is the highest available in multiple down state VA public school systems.
So what? Families in Northern Virginia have invested years of effort to move from rural communities, both local and international, and build access to advanced learning. I’m part of that story, UMR family with resolve.
Racial equity counsels calculus does not belong in any Virginia high school, and particularly not in the NOVA area:
DP. These people can F off.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 02:51
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:High school calculus is absolutely standard for academic STEM majors in college. What is the point of this post?
DP.
Many HSs in Virginia still do not offer HS Calculus - think about the many rural VA counties with 1 smallish HS. Same in other states across the USA.
So Calculus is common in FCPS or MCPS, but in lots of rural areas in most states, students do not have calculus as a HS math option.
Taking the highest level of math your high school offers is important if you want to be a STEM major. (I think this is more of an issue with small weird privates than publics in rural areas.)
Sure, but Pre-Calc is the highest available in multiple down state VA public school systems.
So what? Families in Northern Virginia have invested years of effort to move from rural communities, both local and international, and build access to advanced learning. I’m part of that story, UMR family with resolve.
Racial equity counsels calculus does not belong in any Virginia high school, and particularly not in the NOVA area:
Anonymous
10/26/2025 21:16
Subject: Start calculus in high school, dont enter college calculus cold
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure all the parents here whose children are AAP will at least take calc AB by 10th grade…
The standard AAP track is algebra in 7th or 8th grade, which means calculus in 11th or 12th grade if the student doesn't accelerate by taking summer math. And since only 4 years of math are required and calculus isn't required at schools other than TJ, many AAP
students will not take calculus at all.
No way. Any kid in AAP is doing calc at least in 11th. 8th grade Alg I is not AAP. That is standard “honors” track that majority of non AAP kids will do
Until last year you have to qualify for Alg 1 in 6th grade tests and some in AAP did not. So they took Alg 1 in 8th grade.
AAP kids know that there's a number between 6 and 8