Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a proud MAGA 🇦🇺, we want to stop MAGA and Christian hate. Trump is the holiest president ever.
I hope you start a thread and explain the Aussie MAGA movement. I'm getting some wild reels on fb from Aussie MAGA, very Knights Templar themed. Love it.
You know how Facebook algorithm works, right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Low contact with my MAGA mother and step father. One of my kids is in college and one is a recent grad. As a matter of policy and sanity, I don’t interfere with my adult children’s relationships with relatives. One kid identifies as LGBTQ. But refuses to come out to the MAGA grandparents, which is an act of self protection I understand. My stepfather has a gay uncle, and I have never heard them refer to him without using the word “gay”. “We heard your gay uncle Ralph has COVID.” They consider themselves tolerant because they are willing to attend family events he is at— although this part of my family will not include his partner/husband of 30 years in wedding invites, etc. So yeah— I wouldn’t go there either with them if I were LGBTQ.
My mother went on an anti trans rant with all the “trans isn’t real it’s an excuse to sneak into women’s locker rooms” tropes at the oldest kids graduation— in front of my kids and in the home that the graduating kid had rented with a trans friend. The other kid is very active in her campus LGBTQ community and has a close trans friend and her brother is very supportive and protective. Neither of them said anything at the time, because they know they would get nowhere. But both have also gone low/no contact with their grandparents since then.
They also have a history of proudly bigoted anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rants. And my DMV kids have a lot of immigrant and Muslim friends. Which they know. So that doesn’t help the situation.
My mother is confused. I tell her to talk to her adult grandchildren if she has an issue with their relationship with them. And to ask them what the issues are if she is confused. And listen to the answers with acceptance and understanding. I’m certainly not outing my kid to her. But she won’t. She just wanders around making passive aggressive comments and blaming me for not raising the kids to respect her intolerant opinions that insult them and their friends instead. Add it the list of the ways I failed Mom.
Shrug. I don’t blame my kids for being uncomfortable with the spewing of ugly stereotypes. I understand their belief that discussing this would get them nowhere. I’ve spent my whole life explaining to my mother and a sad how some of the things they say hurt me personally and being told to suck it up. I don’t expect my kids would get any further.
Did I mention my sister has no kids? So these are their only grandkids.
A wall of text. Get a shrink.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Low contact with my MAGA mother and step father. One of my kids is in college and one is a recent grad. As a matter of policy and sanity, I don’t interfere with my adult children’s relationships with relatives. One kid identifies as LGBTQ. But refuses to come out to the MAGA grandparents, which is an act of self protection I understand. My stepfather has a gay uncle, and I have never heard them refer to him without using the word “gay”. “We heard your gay uncle Ralph has COVID.” They consider themselves tolerant because they are willing to attend family events he is at— although this part of my family will not include his partner/husband of 30 years in wedding invites, etc. So yeah— I wouldn’t go there either with them if I were LGBTQ.
My mother went on an anti trans rant with all the “trans isn’t real it’s an excuse to sneak into women’s locker rooms” tropes at the oldest kids graduation— in front of my kids and in the home that the graduating kid had rented with a trans friend. The other kid is very active in her campus LGBTQ community and has a close trans friend and her brother is very supportive and protective. Neither of them said anything at the time, because they know they would get nowhere. But both have also gone low/no contact with their grandparents since then.
They also have a history of proudly bigoted anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rants. And my DMV kids have a lot of immigrant and Muslim friends. Which they know. So that doesn’t help the situation.
My mother is confused. I tell her to talk to her adult grandchildren if she has an issue with their relationship with them. And to ask them what the issues are if she is confused. And listen to the answers with acceptance and understanding. I’m certainly not outing my kid to her. But she won’t. She just wanders around making passive aggressive comments and blaming me for not raising the kids to respect her intolerant opinions that insult them and their friends instead. Add it the list of the ways I failed Mom.
Shrug. I don’t blame my kids for being uncomfortable with the spewing of ugly stereotypes. I understand their belief that discussing this would get them nowhere. I’ve spent my whole life explaining to my mother and a sad how some of the things they say hurt me personally and being told to suck it up. I don’t expect my kids would get any further.
Did I mention my sister has no kids? So these are their only grandkids.
A wall of text. Get a shrink.
Anonymous wrote:Low contact with my MAGA mother and step father. One of my kids is in college and one is a recent grad. As a matter of policy and sanity, I don’t interfere with my adult children’s relationships with relatives. One kid identifies as LGBTQ. But refuses to come out to the MAGA grandparents, which is an act of self protection I understand. My stepfather has a gay uncle, and I have never heard them refer to him without using the word “gay”. “We heard your gay uncle Ralph has COVID.” They consider themselves tolerant because they are willing to attend family events he is at— although this part of my family will not include his partner/husband of 30 years in wedding invites, etc. So yeah— I wouldn’t go there either with them if I were LGBTQ.
My mother went on an anti trans rant with all the “trans isn’t real it’s an excuse to sneak into women’s locker rooms” tropes at the oldest kids graduation— in front of my kids and in the home that the graduating kid had rented with a trans friend. The other kid is very active in her campus LGBTQ community and has a close trans friend and her brother is very supportive and protective. Neither of them said anything at the time, because they know they would get nowhere. But both have also gone low/no contact with their grandparents since then.
They also have a history of proudly bigoted anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rants. And my DMV kids have a lot of immigrant and Muslim friends. Which they know. So that doesn’t help the situation.
My mother is confused. I tell her to talk to her adult grandchildren if she has an issue with their relationship with them. And to ask them what the issues are if she is confused. And listen to the answers with acceptance and understanding. I’m certainly not outing my kid to her. But she won’t. She just wanders around making passive aggressive comments and blaming me for not raising the kids to respect her intolerant opinions that insult them and their friends instead. Add it the list of the ways I failed Mom.
Shrug. I don’t blame my kids for being uncomfortable with the spewing of ugly stereotypes. I understand their belief that discussing this would get them nowhere. I’ve spent my whole life explaining to my mother and a sad how some of the things they say hurt me personally and being told to suck it up. I don’t expect my kids would get any further.
Did I mention my sister has no kids? So these are their only grandkids.
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere there is a thread on a conservative message board where people are cheering cutting off their liberal leaning socialist family members like yourselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I cut off the children from DH parents. They are MAGA Christians and live in a racist state.
When they send letters I just throw them in the trash.
You are evil and calculating to not allow your children to even visit their grandparents because of politics.
NP. Politics is a choice, and it's a two way street. It can be argued that the parents don't want to see their grandchildren by clinging to their MAGA politics as well.
For my part, I disagree strongly with my own parents politics, and my father-in-law is a dyed-in-the-wool MAGA. I made it quite clear with them all several years ago that if we are to see each other and be a family, there will be no discussion of politics and so far it's been working. Shortly after that, my father-in-law thought he could be Mr. Bossy Wise Guy and tried pushing his luck with some snarky yet stupid MAGA comments, and I immediately called the visit short, "we've got to be going, sorry" and left. Since doing that, he's been a lot more reasonable and kept his asinine politics to himself when we come to visit.
Agreed. There are lines that can't be crossed. Years ago, my inlaws made some racist comments in from of our kids. DH immediately said if you say things like that you are not welcome in this house. They left early in a huff that day, but things have been fine since. They keep that sh*t to themselves. We just focus on other things, because they love our kids. But if they got pushy about it, we would probably limit contact more.
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere there is a thread on a conservative message board where people are cheering cutting off their liberal leaning socialist family members like yourselves.
Anonymous wrote:I cut off the children from DH parents. They are MAGA Christians and live in a racist state.
When they send letters I just throw them in the trash.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I cut off the children from DH parents. They are MAGA Christians and live in a racist state.
When they send letters I just throw them in the trash.
You are evil and calculating to not allow your children to even visit their grandparents because of politics.
NP. Politics is a choice, and it's a two way street. It can be argued that the parents don't want to see their grandchildren by clinging to their MAGA politics as well.
For my part, I disagree strongly with my own parents politics, and my father-in-law is a dyed-in-the-wool MAGA. I made it quite clear with them all several years ago that if we are to see each other and be a family, there will be no discussion of politics and so far it's been working. Shortly after that, my father-in-law thought he could be Mr. Bossy Wise Guy and tried pushing his luck with some snarky yet stupid MAGA comments, and I immediately called the visit short, "we've got to be going, sorry" and left. Since doing that, he's been a lot more reasonable and kept his asinine politics to himself when we come to visit.
Agreed. There are lines that can't be crossed. Years ago, my inlaws made some racist comments in from of our kids. DH immediately said if you say things like that you are not welcome in this house. They left early in a huff that day, but things have been fine since. They keep that sh*t to themselves. We just focus on other things, because they love our kids. But if they got pushy about it, we would probably limit contact more.
Isn’t actually being racist worse than voting for Trump?
They’re one and the same.