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Anonymous wrote:Hi all - my child is being recruited by Haverford and would love any feedback. We are coming from a Christian school, so I am worried it might be a little too left for us. Anyone have kids that go there? Is there a Christian community? Thanks for any info at all - the good, bad and ugly.

Haverford is probably too left for Vladimir Lenin.

Although it could be an exciting experience for a young adult from a Christian school background, the experience might be too traumatic due to constant criticism from other students and, most likely, faculty. Your son would be treated with more kindness, tenderness, and respect by the drill sergeants at a Marine Corps boot camp.

Haverford College is a tiny school in terms of number of students. It is important for one to fit in at a small school. Highly unlikely that a student from a Christian school would fit in at super woke Haverford College.

Nevertheless, as an athletic team member, your son should be able to make a few friends. But, do you want to inject your child into an environment where he must keep his background, training, and thoughts to himself due to the risk of constant ridicule and rejection ?

spot on - the only leftist peer in this regard is Wesleyan, especially for athletes. Not saying it as a bad or good thing, but it exists - an attraction for some kids but not all

Quit responding to your own posts.

which one was that?

Our kid from a similar background in a somewhat similar situation did something very practical that helped them make their decision. They found the school's intervaristy Christian community on the web, and when they were visiting, they had coffee with one of the student leaders to discuss. This is a school known to be one of the "wokest" though I don't like the term. The Christian community was close-knit and vibrant and the students very happy. But our kid sensed self-censorship in the community based on what the student said. I didn't see that from the conversations relayed, but in the end, despite all the money and perfect academic fit, our kid just couldn't make the leap. They were too worried and uncomfortable about it. They are happy at the school they have chosen, which I would call relatively apolitical for today's environment. I would recommend your kid reaching out to the Christian community that fits your faith background. It is the only way to get into a glimpse of what things might really be like. Also consider, though, whether your kid is independent-minded enough to be part of a counter-cultural group in the face of strong contrary currents. Our kid didn't want all the stress. They wanted to enjoy college.

I would say no to Haverford unless your DC is looking for a very different environment from a Christian high school. I went from a conservative religious school to a known lefty college, and while I was looking for a significant change, it still took more adjustment that I expected. And coming from a religious school made me a bit of an oddity.

OTOH, my younger brother went to a college where the gender balance is tipped 65/35 female. He is tall and good-looking, but in no way became a "player." He dated in college and met his future wife at age 24. They dated seriously for several years, and married when she finished medical school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all - my child is being recruited by Haverford and would love any feedback. We are coming from a Christian school, so I am worried it might be a little too left for us. Anyone have kids that go there? Is there a Christian community? Thanks for any info at all - the good, bad and ugly.

Haverford is probably too left for Vladimir Lenin.

Although it could be an exciting experience for a young adult from a Christian school background, the experience might be too traumatic due to constant criticism from other students and, most likely, faculty. Your son would be treated with more kindness, tenderness, and respect by the drill sergeants at a Marine Corps boot camp.

Haverford College is a tiny school in terms of number of students. It is important for one to fit in at a small school. Highly unlikely that a student from a Christian school would fit in at super woke Haverford College.

Nevertheless, as an athletic team member, your son should be able to make a few friends. But, do you want to inject your child into an environment where he must keep his background, training, and thoughts to himself due to the risk of constant ridicule and rejection ?

What are you talking about?? Haverford is founded on Christian values. No one will ridicule. Even if he’s an obnoxious maga, they will listen to him.
It’s a really nice environment.

Are you on drugs ?

Have you been to Haverford College in the last few years ?

Haverford a Christian college made me LOL !

Haverford has a very distinct athlete /non-athlete divide.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: If your son who attends a Christian or Catholic school is a social justice warrior intolerant of dissenting viewpoints, then he will be comfortable at Haverford College.

For those who like the super-woke environment found at Haverford College, Occidental College in Los Angeles and Macalester College in St. Paul/Minneapolis area should be considered.

This. My Alma mater has gone super woke. No one in my class gives anymore. The only college to be sued under the Biden admin for antisemitism because it failed to protect its Jewish students.

Are you referring to the NYU shakedown by Israel?

https://apnews.com/article/nyu-israel-gaza-protests-university-settlement-d01dfeb589ad95f3007e1fb63d86845a

Go to Liberty. Stay somewhere safe that reflects your values.

Or are you afraid that Haverford might be a place that reflects and supports your child's values?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all - my child is being recruited by Haverford and would love any feedback. We are coming from a Christian school, so I am worried it might be a little too left for us. Anyone have kids that go there? Is there a Christian community? Thanks for any info at all - the good, bad and ugly.

Haverford is probably too left for Vladimir Lenin.

Although it could be an exciting experience for a young adult from a Christian school background, the experience might be too traumatic due to constant criticism from other students and, most likely, faculty. Your son would be treated with more kindness, tenderness, and respect by the drill sergeants at a Marine Corps boot camp.

Haverford College is a tiny school in terms of number of students. It is important for one to fit in at a small school. Highly unlikely that a student from a Christian school would fit in at super woke Haverford College.

Nevertheless, as an athletic team member, your son should be able to make a few friends. But, do you want to inject your child into an environment where he must keep his background, training, and thoughts to himself due to the risk of constant ridicule and rejection ?

spot on - the only leftist peer in this regard is Wesleyan, especially for athletes. Not saying it as a bad or good thing, but it exists - an attraction for some kids but not all

Quit responding to your own posts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all - my child is being recruited by Haverford and would love any feedback. We are coming from a Christian school, so I am worried it might be a little too left for us. Anyone have kids that go there? Is there a Christian community? Thanks for any info at all - the good, bad and ugly.

Haverford is probably too left for Vladimir Lenin.

Although it could be an exciting experience for a young adult from a Christian school background, the experience might be too traumatic due to constant criticism from other students and, most likely, faculty. Your son would be treated with more kindness, tenderness, and respect by the drill sergeants at a Marine Corps boot camp.

Haverford College is a tiny school in terms of number of students. It is important for one to fit in at a small school. Highly unlikely that a student from a Christian school would fit in at super woke Haverford College.

Nevertheless, as an athletic team member, your son should be able to make a few friends. But, do you want to inject your child into an environment where he must keep his background, training, and thoughts to himself due to the risk of constant ridicule and rejection ?

Nonsensical blathering.

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Anonymous wrote:My only concern with Haveford for my son is the female/male split. Because students at Bryn Mawr and Haverford cross-register significantly (as the campuses are nearby each other), the gender split can feel more like 75/25 or 80/20 female in some departments.

You are worried that your son is surrounded by too many women?

Yes, social psych research has shown that when men are significantly outnumbered by women in a dating environment, they are less likely to form stable relationships, and more likely to take on a "player" personality because it's so easy to hook up. For women, if you have 3-4 straight women pursuing each 1 straight guy, it's so competitive, the women are more aggressive in pursuing the few eligible men, and lower their standards to expect much less of the men.

I'd prefer he not develop skewed ethics/values about women and relationships from age 18-22 if avoidable.

You can’t be real. I have news for you, lady. A good number of those women are looking at each other, not your son.

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Anonymous wrote:Davidson, Richmond, Denison may offer an LAC experience that’s friendlier for more conservative students

Of these, only Davidson is an academic peer of Haverford.

W&L is superior; Hillsdale is a peer.

Hillsdale is nonsense, W&L is a peer.

Anonymous wrote:I looked at Haverford decades ago and found it comparable to the WASP schools I looked at. I l’m dismayed to see from the posts on this board that it has slipped in some ways.

It hasn’t slipped, it’s a great school.

Anonymous wrote:Used to be one of the best LACs decades ago. We toured two years ago and never applied because it seemed way, way too woke for our taste. Imposingly woke. You need to visit.

Nonsense, I have visited Haverford multiple times and went on tours as well.There wasn’t a single thing that could be considered “woke”. It’s a liberal school and very small so anyone should visit for fit. It just stop the idiotic blithering about “woke”.

Anonymous wrote:OP: If your son who attends a Christian or Catholic school is a social justice warrior intolerant of dissenting viewpoints, then he will be comfortable at Haverford College.

For those who like the super-woke environment found at Haverford College, Occidental College in Los Angeles and Macalester College in St. Paul/Minneapolis area should be considered.

This. My Alma mater has gone super woke. No one in my class gives anymore. The only college to be sued under the Biden admin for antisemitism because it failed to protect its Jewish students.

OP, be advised that there is an unhinged Haverford basher who immediately chimes into every thread that mentions the school. It's pathological. I'd ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:My only concern with Haveford for my son is the female/male split. Because students at Bryn Mawr and Haverford cross-register significantly (as the campuses are nearby each other), the gender split can feel more like 75/25 or 80/20 female in some departments.

You are worried that your son is surrounded by too many women?

Yes, social psych research has shown that when men are significantly outnumbered by women in a dating environment, they are less likely to form stable relationships, and more likely to take on a "player" personality because it's so easy to hook up. For women, if you have 3-4 straight women pursuing each 1 straight guy, it's so competitive, the women are more aggressive in pursuing the few eligible men, and lower their standards to expect much less of the men.

I'd prefer he not develop skewed ethics/values about women and relationships from age 18-22 if avoidable.