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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

That's a bunch of BS. The young women I know covering their own sorority have been working afterschool and summer jobs in high school and part-time jobs in college. My niece tutors AP students.

Yes, but it is still a lot. The girl I know is paying OOS for Alabama, with some loans. She is using her own money for rush, but it could have been used to reduce loans. Her family is making trips down there for bid day etc., so add that to the bottom line. Wow!

I hope this young women aren't getting themselves into unnecessary debt. Sometimes college students run up their credit cards and take out more loans to cover these discretionary expenses.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

And, to be fair, lots of elementary education and “communications” majors as well. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

Same at my BIG10.
A lot of lawyers (me too!)

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

That's a bunch of BS. The young women I know covering their own sorority have been working afterschool and summer jobs in high school and part-time jobs in college. My niece tutors AP students.

Yes, but it is still a lot. The girl I know is paying OOS for Alabama, with some loans. She is using her own money for rush, but it could have been used to reduce loans. Her family is making trips down there for bid day etc., so add that to the bottom line. Wow!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

Lots of the same at my SEC school. I’m a lawyer as are many of my sorority sisters. I can also think of quite a few in healthcare (doctors, PAs, nurses with advanced degrees). My school has a solid engineering program so plenty of those as well.

Everyone should stop getting their info from Legally Blonde. These sororities are massive and have a big mix of majors.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

That's a bunch of BS. The young women I know covering their own sorority have been working afterschool and summer jobs in high school and part-time jobs in college. My niece tutors AP students.

I'm not agreeing with the PP but if girls are really spending $5-10K on ONE OUTFIT, then I doubt they are covering that with afterschool jobs and tutoring gigs. My daughter made $5K at her whole summer job, but worked all summer and that was considered a good job. And many of the good jobs (internships) are increasingly unpaid. Even if you're charging $50/hour for tutoring, that's like maybe 2K for a whole school year's worth per kid I think there are some girls who have successful influencer accounts that could make the kind of money to afford $5-10K outfits, but I don't think your average hardworking college kid is doing that.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read the article, but the wealth at Alabama is shocking - families with private planes, kids with Porsches, etc.

Why is it shocking? Because the underlying assumption is that rich people should go somewhere else? Or that you're shocked to know that everyone in Alabama isn't a dirt poor hick?

More than the outfits these girls are wearing are akin to large homes in the DMV mortgages. Like 5-10k. Its OBSCENE. Again, not the location but the obvious wealth disparity we have in this coutry. But I am sure all those kids believe they get hired or their future husbands will get hired because of merit, and not connections.

Look at your neighbors forking over tens or thousands for private schools. What do you think the point of that is? Surely they are driving past crumbling schools to get to their private bubble. Do you ignore what's in front of your own eyes? Everyone uses connections, you're a liar if you say you don't.

You cannot be attempting to compare Sorority Rush and spending $5-10K on outfits/etc with sending your kid to a private school!

What is a private school if not an exclusive club? Your 5 yr old wasn’t admitted on merit either.

It’s like some weird, way out of date gasp of white privilege, it could be argued.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Lots of premeds and prelaw and preMBA at mine.
Not many engineers back in the 90s.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts, other than that the whole thing is vaguely depressing.

My understanding is that many of these young ladies view college as more of a social, getting a MRS degree experience than as an educational experience.

Many universities have Greek systems that demand resumes which show academic achievement in addition to community service and the sororities are serious about overall academic GPA for their house.

I was in a sorority at a big Greek SEC school. Our sororities always had much higher academic scores than the rest of the school. We were counseled if our GPA went below 3.5 and you got kicked out if it went below 3.0. Below 3.5 there was mandatory tutoring and you’d miss out on socials.

Yes, but with all due respect, what was the major of 99% of these women? Not a lot of premeds and engineers in the bunch, in my experience.

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read the article, but the wealth at Alabama is shocking - families with private planes, kids with Porsches, etc.

Clemson is like this too. They have a private airport near campus. The planes there are insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read the article, but the wealth at Alabama is shocking - families with private planes, kids with Porsches, etc.

Why is it shocking? Because the underlying assumption is that rich people should go somewhere else? Or that you're shocked to know that everyone in Alabama isn't a dirt poor hick?

More than the outfits these girls are wearing are akin to large homes in the DMV mortgages. Like 5-10k. Its OBSCENE. Again, not the location but the obvious wealth disparity we have in this coutry. But I am sure all those kids believe they get hired or their future husbands will get hired because of merit, and not connections.

Look at your neighbors forking over tens or thousands for private schools. What do you think the point of that is? Surely they are driving past crumbling schools to get to their private bubble. Do you ignore what's in front of your own eyes? Everyone uses connections, you're a liar if you say you don't.

You cannot be attempting to compare Sorority Rush and spending $5-10K on outfits/etc with sending your kid to a private school!

Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

That's a bunch of BS. The young women I know covering their own sorority have been working afterschool and summer jobs in high school and part-time jobs in college. My niece tutors AP students.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read the article, but the wealth at Alabama is shocking - families with private planes, kids with Porsches, etc.

Why is it shocking? Because the underlying assumption is that rich people should go somewhere else? Or that you're shocked to know that everyone in Alabama isn't a dirt poor hick?

More than the outfits these girls are wearing are akin to large homes in the DMV mortgages. Like 5-10k. Its OBSCENE. Again, not the location but the obvious wealth disparity we have in this coutry. But I am sure all those kids believe they get hired or their future husbands will get hired because of merit, and not connections.

They don’t care if they are hired on merit, that’s not their culture.

Not everyone is obsessed with meritocracy like Panicking Class people are.

OF COURSE you get a job or the right spouse on connections, that’s why the right Greek House is important.

Socially, these outfits are the equivalent of paying for a tutor or college counselor.

Did you really think people are plowing money into this with zero ROI?

Well sure but ask them or their future husbands- so their peers- about how important merit is and why DEI is bad and youll get a whole reasoning for why merit is the most important thing. merit =/= daddys money.

So obscene and hypocritical. No wonder they all vote for Trump. Yay! The highly educated

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Anonymous wrote:To answer OP's question, if their family isn't paying, then they could be raising the funds through sugaring arrangements. Very popular among college women.

what’s a sugaring arrangement?

Prostitution.