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2. culture and physical attractiveness of the student body.

it's stressful, it's tough, and it's not fun. and no this isn't a racial thing, compare the asian kids that go to ucla or stanford to jhu or any other strong west coast school vs jhu...there are no abg's for example at jhu.

Appalling. Any serious school doesn't have many abgs. MIT? Princeton? Penn? Wellesley? Cornell?

Here is what Penn's feminist journal has to say about Asian Baby Girls:

https://upennfword.com/about/

"Transferring to the East Coast, there was bound to be some cultural delay, and by the time the ABG grew in popularity here, there were already a list of things necessary in order to be considered an ABG. East Coast Asian-American girls aspire to be ABGs, and change their behavior and appearance to conform to the stereotype. There exists a sense of pride in knowing you fit in with Californian stereotypes, especially since the location is so romanticized. I asked my friend for her thoughts on the regional divide, and she explained that on the East Coast, ABGs were people that didn’t know themselves or their personal identities and turned to fulfilling a trope so that they could assume some type of personality."

East coast Asians def don’t have the same cultural capital and confidence of west coast Asians, that’s true.

If you are Asian, it behooves you to go to school out west

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2. culture and physical attractiveness of the student body.

it's stressful, it's tough, and it's not fun. and no this isn't a racial thing, compare the asian kids that go to ucla or stanford to jhu or any other strong west coast school vs jhu...there are no abg's for example at jhu.

Appalling. Any serious school doesn't have many abgs. MIT? Princeton? Penn? Wellesley? Cornell?

Here is what Penn's feminist journal has to say about Asian Baby Girls:

https://upennfword.com/about/

"Transferring to the East Coast, there was bound to be some cultural delay, and by the time the ABG grew in popularity here, there were already a list of things necessary in order to be considered an ABG. East Coast Asian-American girls aspire to be ABGs, and change their behavior and appearance to conform to the stereotype. There exists a sense of pride in knowing you fit in with Californian stereotypes, especially since the location is so romanticized. I asked my friend for her thoughts on the regional divide, and she explained that on the East Coast, ABGs were people that didn’t know themselves or their personal identities and turned to fulfilling a trope so that they could assume some type of personality."

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So outside of medicine/health care, even though JHU has excellent educational programs, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

What about these people?: https://www.jhu.edu/about/notable-alumni/

That’s a pretty thin list for how good the education at jhu is

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2. culture and physical attractiveness of the student body.

it's stressful, it's tough, and it's not fun. and no this isn't a racial thing, compare the asian kids that go to ucla or stanford to jhu or any other strong west coast school vs jhu...there are no abg's for example at jhu.

Appalling. Any serious school doesn't have many abgs. MIT? Princeton? Penn? Wellesley? Cornell?

UCLA and Stanford aren’t serious schools?

Penn and Princeton def have Abg’s

Don’t know about Cornell and doubt Wellesley does but unlike jhu, Wellesley is #1 in its lane and and is bucolic and beautiful.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

This comes up very often as a negative for certain elite schools. I'm not sure what the arguments is unless it's for an easy A. I want my scientists, doctors, and engineers to have actually worked hard in a competitive environment and risen to the top.

If you’re a scientist, doctor, and engineer you’re working hard anyway. Your undergrad performance in class says very little about your ability to carry out research or patient care. It’s definitely needed that you do well, because it shows discipline and some understanding of the subject, but the adoration with grade inflation is mostly just performance art of who “has it” and doesn’t.

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So outside of medicine/health care, even though JHU has excellent educational programs, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

What about these people?: https://www.jhu.edu/about/notable-alumni/

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2. culture and physical attractiveness of the student body.

it's stressful, it's tough, and it's not fun. and no this isn't a racial thing, compare the asian kids that go to ucla or stanford to jhu or any other strong west coast school vs jhu...there are no abg's for example at jhu.

Appalling. Any serious school doesn't have many abgs. MIT? Princeton? Penn? Wellesley? Cornell?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

This comes up very often as a negative for certain elite schools. I'm not sure what the arguments is unless it's for an easy A. I want my scientists, doctors, and engineers to have actually worked hard in a competitive environment and risen to the top.

unfortunately society doesn't reward that.

jhu is a school that should be Switzerland, Germany, or asia.

it doesn't fit in with the culture of America and what gets rewarded in America, so it's easy to get disillusioned.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is a recent grad. They loved their Hopkins experience and thrived but it absolutely is intense and your kid needs to be self-motivated and self-advocating from day 1. Safety was a non-issue on the campus, otherwise it was like any big city. Go HOP!

Intense in what way? Is it because it's fast paced that the classes cover 1 year worth of material in three months? Or is it intense due to culture, for example, kids spending a lot of time studying in library? Or both?

All of the above and grading is tough.

JHU has hard grading but doesn't have the benefit of receiving the Princeton brand for example.

Hopkins alum here -- as a school it's an awesome education.

It is massively let down by:

1. location. if Hopkins was in a bucolic new England setting, or west coast, or outdoorsy beautiful place, or top 6 city it would be much more lusted after...instead it is where it is...

2. culture and physical attractiveness of the student body.

it's stressful, it's tough, and it's not fun. and no this isn't a racial thing, compare the asian kids that go to ucla or stanford to jhu or any other strong west coast school vs jhu...there are no abg's for example at jhu.

3. career services/exit options -- jhu is not in hypsm nor the penn/duke/chicago/nw tier from what i've seen in my peer group.

in government for example, jhu graduates a lot of people who end up becoming great staff but rarely the principal.

for how top tier the education is, jhu is not as common as other t20's in the best banking/law/consulting shops.

So outside of medicine/health care, even though JHU has excellent educational programs, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Family member has significant experience with Baltimore. Says fearful in Baltimore; feels safer in Philly & in DC.

JHU is a great school with respect to academics (undergraduate & graduate).

Some poster said the average gpa at jhu is 3.8. Could anyone post a link to this information?

Anonymous wrote:We went for the info session and tour. DC is interested in humanities and every tour guide was stem so it was hard to get a sense of non stem amd non premed life. So much talk about stem research etc but no chatter about humanities and social sciences even though info session person said a third of kids pursue those areas. Guides talked about free tutors, free laundry and a new student center. Didnt have much to say about the on and off campus social life. Our guide told us they study a lot and liked to crochet. Student guides were nice but nerdy and reinforced the hopkins stereotype. My DC couldn't really see themselves there.

Unfortunately, the social and active kids tend to not be tour guides. The best way to get a good feel for the school is to contact a current student and spend the day with them

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an intense environment that I wouldn’t want my kid to be in but if your kid thrives in that kind of environment…

That intense environment is pervasive — nary a classroom is empty when class is not in session. Just room after room of grinders, grinding. DC took it off the list.

This comes up very often as a negative for certain elite schools. I'm not sure what the arguments is unless it's for an easy A. I want my scientists, doctors, and engineers to have actually worked hard in a competitive environment and risen to the top.

Agree. Nothing wrong with hard work and hours of studying per week. I went to an ivy and was like that back in 96-2000. Spouse JHU. Same.

Yes, if you went to an Ivy, it is true that your kid has a much better admit chance applying ED1 or ED2 at Hopkins. It and its ED1, ED2 partner, Chicago, should not be in the top 10.

We went for the info session and tour. DC is interested in humanities and every tour guide was stem so it was hard to get a sense of non stem amd non premed life. So much talk about stem research etc but no chatter about humanities and social sciences even though info session person said a third of kids pursue those areas. Guides talked about free tutors, free laundry and a new student center. Didnt have much to say about the on and off campus social life. Our guide told us they study a lot and liked to crochet. Student guides were nice but nerdy and reinforced the hopkins stereotype. My DC couldn't really see themselves there.