Anonymous wrote:Northwestern and Hopkins are not top 10 schools. Dartmouth is better than Cornell and Columbia tops Cornell. ND is better than Vandy and Georgetown much better than Emory. Maybe some anti-Catholic bias. Don’t feel USC is top30. Who cares about NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Lehigh, and Rochester. Tufts is a historically good school.

Vandy is better than ND, and Emory is better than Georgetown and ND. No one cares about yeild. Emory's test median is a 1530, it could drop the median 50 points if it really wanted to raise its yeild. They dont want to and frankly they shouldn't. Emory has a lot more money than Georgetown and stronger students. And is better at relevant majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is at the historical low. Used to be T20 in the 90’s 00’s and 10’s.

But I think Emory is on the way coming back up, with CS job cuts and kids starting pursuing health related majors again.

A wonderful school checks so many boxes.

The methodology changes has really hurt it. I remember UCLA was 25 and Emory 20, then they made changes and then Emory was 21-22. They made changes again and now its 24. On the bright side, it was only 1 point away from tieing the others at 20. And Emory has more upside than Georgetown, with the current methodology Georgetown cant really increase in ranking.

emory remains a shithole with 37% yield despite waitlist and second campus games.

You're in every thread that mentions Emory. Its psychotic.

Anonymous wrote:Top 10
Top 20
Top 50

All the rest is noise.

Its
T5
T10
T25
T50

Northwestern and Hopkins are not top 10 schools. Dartmouth is better than Cornell and Columbia tops Cornell. ND is better than Vandy and Georgetown much better than Emory. Maybe some anti-Catholic bias. Don’t feel USC is top30. Who cares about NYU, BC, BU, NEU, Lehigh, and Rochester. Tufts is a historically good school.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is at the historical low. Used to be T20 in the 90’s 00’s and 10’s.

But I think Emory is on the way coming back up, with CS job cuts and kids starting pursuing health related majors again.

A wonderful school checks so many boxes.

The methodology changes has really hurt it. I remember UCLA was 25 and Emory 20, then they made changes and then Emory was 21-22. They made changes again and now its 24. On the bright side, it was only 1 point away from tieing the others at 20. And Emory has more upside than Georgetown, with the current methodology Georgetown cant really increase in ranking.

emory remains a shithole with 37% yield despite waitlist and second campus games.

I’m sorry you feel that way. Some kids outside DMV-land would love the chance to go to Emory.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is at the historical low. Used to be T20 in the 90’s 00’s and 10’s.

But I think Emory is on the way coming back up, with CS job cuts and kids starting pursuing health related majors again.

A wonderful school checks so many boxes.

The methodology changes has really hurt it. I remember UCLA was 25 and Emory 20, then they made changes and then Emory was 21-22. They made changes again and now its 24. On the bright side, it was only 1 point away from tieing the others at 20. And Emory has more upside than Georgetown, with the current methodology Georgetown cant really increase in ranking.

emory remains a shithole with 37% yield despite waitlist and second campus games.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of this? Is it just so the following can move up the list?

23 - USC
24 - NYU
25 - BC, Tufts
27 - BU
28 - Lehigh, Northeastern, URochester

How about we separate the <25K student schools from the >25K schools? I can come up with lots of ways to split it to make things look teh way I would like.

NP and personal opinion, but as a single parent with a good (not fantastic) income we're likely not qualifying for significant financial aid from OOS publics but probably will from some of the privates. UVA isn't a guarantee here. Michigan, Berkeley would likely be full pay at 88k or so - so it's nice to a filtered look like this for perspective. There are plenty of factors in applications, though, and this is just one.

Those 3 schools being omitted from the list make no difference in the ability to understand the options. OP is just trying to make some school that is lower than publics look more desirable. OK. If that's important to them......

In fact, they are in general more desirable than publics by data.
That's in fact the problem with the ranking.

except this is not a selectivity ranking. stupid take

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Anonymous wrote:1 - Princeton
2 - MIT
3 - Harvard
4 - Stanford, Yale
6 - UChicago
7 - Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn
11 - Caltech
12 - Cornell
13 - Brown, Dartmouth
15 - Columbia
16 - Rice, Vanderbilt
18 - Carnegie Mellon, Notre Dame, WUSTL
21 - Emory, Georgetown
23 - USC
24 - NYU
25 - BC, Tufts
27 - BU
28 - Lehigh, Northeastern, URochester

Privates better be ranked separately from Publics like LACs.

This makes it easier to see without the public university distraction (unless you are in-state at whatever your university is). Lots of great schools.

As for the top 10, CIT should be there; #1-2 should be Harvard and Stanford (Princeton 4th); and Chicago and Johns Hopkins have no business there.

As for the next 10, 3 Ivies are ranked worse than the lowest Ivy. Please.

your opinion is worthless

Anonymous wrote:Emory is at the historical low. Used to be T20 in the 90’s 00’s and 10’s.

But I think Emory is on the way coming back up, with CS job cuts and kids starting pursuing health related majors again.

A wonderful school checks so many boxes.

The methodology changes has really hurt it. I remember UCLA was 25 and Emory 20, then they made changes and then Emory was 21-22. They made changes again and now its 24. On the bright side, it was only 1 point away from tieing the others at 20. And Emory has more upside than Georgetown, with the current methodology Georgetown cant really increase in ranking.

Top 10
Top 20
Top 50

All the rest is noise.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think the reason they don’t list private schools separately is that they fear most if not all would rapidly become peripheral to the college conversation, much as SLACs are today.

What? You mean the publics would right? People dont pay attention to the public list as it is.

Take away that ranking and you have the LAC problem: why exactly are you paying 2-3x the price for a name most people have never heard of?

Most people the majority of us associate with personally and professionally are immediately familiar most of these schools, from the Wake's and Tulane's of the world through Hopkins and up the ladder.

Does anybody without a college-aged child pay even the slightest attention to rankings? I went decades (early 90's to mid-2020's) without giving them a second thought. Once I dove back in it seemed little had changed. Most of the kids who get into any of these schools are on the right path.

Emory is at the historical low. Used to be T20 in the 90’s 00’s and 10’s.

But I think Emory is on the way coming back up, with CS job cuts and kids starting pursuing health related majors again.

A wonderful school checks so many boxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools like BC, BU, NEU, and Tufts(lesser extent) are not on any top 25 lists. Those schools exist for kids that want to go to cold Boston for 4 years but couldn’t get into top schools. Average at best they have low acceptance rates for lots of mediocre students.

They are ALL USNWR top 50 schools, public or private.


Dummy.

+1

PP just doesn't like Boston.

Anonymous wrote:Schools like BC, BU, NEU, and Tufts(lesser extent) are not on any top 25 lists. Those schools exist for kids that want to go to cold Boston for 4 years but couldn’t get into top schools. Average at best they have low acceptance rates for lots of mediocre students.

They are ALL USNWR top 50 schools, public or private.


Dummy.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think the reason they don’t list private schools separately is that they fear most if not all would rapidly become peripheral to the college conversation, much as SLACs are today.

What? You mean the publics would right? People dont pay attention to the public list as it is.

Eh, I think people pay a lot more attention to Michigan and UVA than to schools like Lehigh and Rochester. I’ll concede that HYPSM would remain relevant. But a lot of other privates are getting a boost from being ranked “above” your state’s highest-ranked public school. Take away that ranking and you have the LAC problem: why exactly are you paying 2-3x the price for a name most people have never heard of? Meanwhile the big state schools will all remain relevant and well-known in their home states, regardless of rankings.