Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:59
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Executive coaches. Just failed professionals, every one of them. "I don't want to work, but I want to talk about work. For $400 an hour." UGH.
Also piling on chiropractors. Using the guise of medicine to sell human touch to sad people is vile.
Also piling on chiropractors. Using the guise of medicine to sell human touch to sad people is vile.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:57
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
NP. Our justice system is built on the concept of everyone getting a fair trial with legal representation. If you’re too stupid to understand why, that’s a you problem.
Name calling, now that’s how I know you really are making a legitimate point 🙄
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:56
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
How many public defenders have you actually seen at trial? Because I've seen a bunch and I've never seen a victim "trashed" on cross. Among other things, it doesn't play well with the jury.
Trials aren't like TV.
Too many to count. My favorite was the one whose defense was that an older woman who was attacked in her home actually had consented to a sexual encounter with the defendant who wasn’t known to her and was 40+
years younger. But carry on, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:39
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Car salesperson
Anyone in sales or insurance
Criminal or personal injury lawyers
Cake or cookie or cupcake decorators/bakers
Travel agents
Why Cake or cookie or cupcake decorators/bakers? I love those people.
Yeah, I don’t get that one either.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:37
Subject: Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anyone involved with the NRA or gun lobby
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:36
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
Do they "KNOW" someone is guilty? Innocent people are railroaded every day in this country, and we judge people based on news reports. News reports get their information from police and DA offices. Police departments do an inadequate job investigating even the minor of crimes and accidents. Defense attorneys are the backbone of our justice system. You cannot have justice without them. Unless you have experienced injustice first hand, I don't think you will ever understand how important defense attorneys are to the process.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:33
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
I’m sure it has happened occasionally but being held up at gunpoint during cross examination is pretty infrequent.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:32
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
NP. Our justice system is built on the concept of everyone getting a fair trial with legal representation. If you’re too stupid to understand why, that’s a you problem.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:31
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
How many public defenders have you actually seen at trial? Because I've seen a bunch and I've never seen a victim "trashed" on cross. Among other things, it doesn't play well with the jury.
Trials aren't like TV.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:29
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another plug for public defenders. The truly believe in the Constitution and the rights afforded everyone therein. It is their job to put the prosecution through their paces to ensure a fair trial, that the evidence collected was legal, the jury is as unbiased as possible, etc. They recognize that most of their clients are guilty, but our system requires due process. (at least it did before the current administration) They are truly overworked and underpaid. I had many friends from law school go into that type of work.
Eh, I know this is their spiel for why they do it, but going to trial and re-traumatizing victims in violent crimes and sexual assaults during cross-examination when you know your client did it and should cop a plea is never going to earn any respect from me.
The client is the one that gets to choose whether to accept a plea or not. You can't provide a subpar defense because you think they should have pled out.
Doesn’t change the fact that I have little to no respect for someone whose idea of providing an adequate defense to someone they know is guilty is trashing a rape victim or someone who’s been held up at gunpoint on cross-examination.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 12:28
Subject: Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
I don't understand most of these. People should get divorced if they want and most need help agreeing to the financial part. Cars aren't sold off the shelf, even if they should be. Neither are houses.
Chiropractors, I'll give you.
Chiropractors, I'll give you.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 10:50
Subject: Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:What is PE?
Private equity, I think?
Anonymous
09/24/2025 10:49
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Life coach, wellness coach, that kind of thing. I hate the PE people too but at least they are transparent about their motivations. I've known people in the "wellness space" who will sell you a load of BS about how they just want to help people and promote healthy living, but then they'll charge astronomical prices for something that requires no education or special training, in a field with no oversight or certification. Most of them are glorified yoga instructors. If that! At least yoga is an actual skill.
+1
And social media has given them an enormous platform to spew their lies. Cortisol face? Buy my supplements!
Anonymous
09/24/2025 10:47
Subject: Re:Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Anonymous wrote:Car salesperson
Anyone in sales or insurance
Criminal or personal injury lawyers
Cake or cookie or cupcake decorators/bakers
Travel agents
Why Cake or cookie or cupcake decorators/bakers? I love those people.
Anonymous
09/24/2025 10:45
Subject: Negative association careers for me - PE, ‘family’ law (divorce) attorney. These careers disgust me
Oops forgot chiropractors