Yes.

Maybe I'm stupid.

Anonymous wrote:So many people say no, yet are doing little to nothing about it. How many actually believe what they are saying and how many are fear mongering?

FWIW I don’t think it is as simple as x percent is liberal/MAGA and therefore believe/don’t believe free and fair elections will happen in 2026 and 2028.

FWIW I think Trump looks too sick and frail these days to continue beyond this term. He might not make to the end. Without him, the MAGA cult falls apart. It will fracture and become less able to hold the reins.

Wasn't someone in his circle working on *buying* voting machines ?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course. People need to calm down.

He says as his neighbors get loaded onto trucks.

You must realize how foolish you sound.

Nope, care to explain what specifically is foolish about it?

Sure, no neighbors, in fact, no one I know has ever been “loaded into trucks.” Kids get on the school bus though. You should definitely say this at dinner with friends and family.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course. People need to calm down.

He says as his neighbors get loaded onto trucks.

You must realize how foolish you sound.

Sadly, you are too stupid to understand how your dear leader and your MAGA Goons are destroying our country.

Whelp, there goes another Democrat wondering why bother voting Democrat when their fellow Democrats belittle them. Nice. SMH.

Are your values so changeable that some random person/bot on the internet can change them with a single interaction? That's really quite pathetic, and would suggest your values are not firmly held principles at all.

I was talking about the PP you were turning off. That kind of behavior contributed to Trump’s election. It is like you don’t want people vote. 🤔

What are you even talking about? No one said anything about not voting. We're talking about whether it'll be a free and fair election. Keep up.

You use every chance you get, including this thread, to slam Democrat supporters for not being pure enough by calling them MAGA. By doing this, you suppress Democrat voter turnout. So, yes, let’s continue with the discussion without your blatant hatred of fellow democrats.

Midterms are going to be fine, with the possible exception of any Senate upsets in places like Texas or North Carolina. If those go D then I would expect the GOP to go ballistic and do whatever they can to invalidate Democratic wins.

2028 Presidential is a crapshoot, IMO. If Dems take House and Senate I expect voter suppression measures to kick into overdrive in red states.

I think there is a high likelihood Republicans will object to the electoral college votes of certain states in order to prevent the election of a Democratic President. I also think red states may overrule the will of their voters and have their electors cast votes for the Republican candidate.

I also know that a lot of people call the above insane or think I am hysterical. I hope both turn out to be true.

Anonymous wrote:No, the candidates that will win almost in every election essentially are the ones backed by AIPAC and billionaire Zionist donors.

Yep. Or backed by someone with power + money. There are never free elections. That's the most naive and foolish thing that people can believe. This country is a capitalist society and made up of rich and poor. Make no mistake - human nature is never about freedom - we are animals just like any other kind and there is a hierarchy. The rich are at the top. Nothing gets done without those who control these things impacting. Whether you see the influence or not, whether it's a select group or only 1-2, money gets things done - yes - even in the land of the brave and free.

The only difference is its invisible influence but impactful influence all the same.

Absolutely no way will there be fair elections. Look what the Kirkists have done in the past week.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like most people will want to get the country back on track by then. No more excuses. I still hear some saying “trump says to give it time”….but he is running out if time. It’s going to get worse.

As it is, we have a tyranny of the minority and the power in the military and paramilitary is consolidating. Maybe the country is too big for an Orban/Erdogan style throttling, but unless people start going on general strikes and whatnot, it won't matter.

Tank the economy, buy nothing. Screw you MAGA.

Anonymous wrote:Also, vote on paper every time. Do not vote electronically.

Voting electronically gives you, the voter, a receipt, and provides paper tabulation within the voting machine, that is not connected to the internet, at least, not the Dominion ones. Those paper receipts are then tabulated at the precincts, with total vote counts, votes for each candidate recorded with observers from both sides. The numbers reported by the precincts are then called in to the election office along with all the precincts.

So no, voting on paper doesn't matter.

Now, the Deibold machines ARE connected to the internet. Those are the machines used in most of the southern states, Ohio and a few purple states. No one talks about those because...

Anonymous wrote:I feel like most people will want to get the country back on track by then. No more excuses. I still hear some saying “trump says to give it time”….but he is running out if time. It’s going to get worse.

As it is, we have a tyranny of the minority and the power in the military and paramilitary is consolidating. Maybe the country is too big for an Orban/Erdogan style throttling, but unless people start going on general strikes and whatnot, it won't matter.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the dems can work on nominating candidates who aren't unacceptable to a large swath of the population. That way, you would have a chance at winning elections and wouldn't have to start threads like this preemptively rationalizing your bigly defeats.

Perhaps you have not paid attention to the special elections in 2025.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course. People need to calm down.

He says as his neighbors get loaded onto trucks.

You must realize how foolish you sound.

Sadly, you are too stupid to understand how your dear leader and your MAGA Goons are destroying our country.

Whelp, there goes another Democrat wondering why bother voting Democrat when their fellow Democrats belittle them. Nice. SMH.

Are your values so changeable that some random person/bot on the internet can change them with a single interaction? That's really quite pathetic, and would suggest your values are not firmly held principles at all.

I was talking about the PP you were turning off. That kind of behavior contributed to Trump’s election. It is like you don’t want people vote. 🤔

What are you even talking about? No one said anything about not voting. We're talking about whether it'll be a free and fair election. Keep up.

I bet it’ll be ok

Perhaps the dems can work on nominating candidates who aren't unacceptable to a large swath of the population. That way, you would have a chance at winning elections and wouldn't have to start threads like this preemptively rationalizing your bigly defeats.

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He says as his neighbors get loaded onto trucks.

You must realize how foolish you sound.

Have you not seen the news since January?

Yes, we know. You're in your echochamber and it's end-of-the-world time.