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Anonymous wrote:I am Hispanic married to an American and my kid is Caucasian. I prefer that race was not a factor in school admissions. Just because my kid is white doesn’t mean that he is less capable than a non-white one.

Weird post. Your kid could absolutely check the box for Hispanic or at least mixed race, and the fact that he doesn’t shows a solid understanding that the world is better if you’re a white male vs a Hispanic male.

Anonymous wrote:I am Hispanic married to an American and my kid is Caucasian. I prefer that race was not a factor in school admissions. Just because my kid is white doesn’t mean that he is less capable than a non-white one.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

Sorry, but we’re a full pay black family and have been in private schools since K for both children and it doesn’t matter how dedicated a school was to diversity, progressive or conservative, we have never NOT been one of only a few black families in our grade. Usually I’ve seen maximum 3-5 black kids per grade (if lucky). A couple of Asians, a few Indians here and there .. but the schools are always predominantly white. It never even close. At the mid/lower tier privates there is more diversity, but at the top schools.. forget about it.

All that to say, “should schools do away with diversity initiatives?” Implies that these diversity initiatives are actually making the schools diverse. I’m sorry they aren’t. When you’re touring schools, take the time to count the number of non-white students to white. DEI initiatives have been a thing for decades and still my daughter is one of only 5 black kids in her grade. The real question is, why aren’t there top elite black Private schools? No black boarding schools? College prep super exclusive schools with predominantly Indian kids?

My main point is that schools should be race blind. First of all there are private schools with large share of non white people. Presumably you send your kids to the school you describe because it’s good. There could be other schools more ethnically diverse (specially public) that probably offer a not such a good quality of education and you decided not to send your kids there. The most important thing is to have a very high quality of education and eliminate race from the admission criteria. I think income would be a more valid approach as you would help disadvantaged and talented kids.

You are missing the main point entirely. These schools are businesses. The main goal is to attract families with money and for the k-12s, preferably 13 yrs of money. If being visibly diverse and hiring a DEI consultant attracts the money, that’s what they will do. They do not want your disadvantaged kids.

The elite privates could scrap all diversity targets and eliminate DEI programs and they'd still have long waiting lists and demand for spaces. It's window dressing, nothing more than that. If the black enrollment drops by half, all those places have multiple white or Asian or South Asian applicants eager to take it.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

Sorry, but we’re a full pay black family and have been in private schools since K for both children and it doesn’t matter how dedicated a school was to diversity, progressive or conservative, we have never NOT been one of only a few black families in our grade. Usually I’ve seen maximum 3-5 black kids per grade (if lucky). A couple of Asians, a few Indians here and there .. but the schools are always predominantly white. It never even close. At the mid/lower tier privates there is more diversity, but at the top schools.. forget about it.

All that to say, “should schools do away with diversity initiatives?” Implies that these diversity initiatives are actually making the schools diverse. I’m sorry they aren’t. When you’re touring schools, take the time to count the number of non-white students to white. DEI initiatives have been a thing for decades and still my daughter is one of only 5 black kids in her grade. The real question is, why aren’t there top elite black Private schools? No black boarding schools? College prep super exclusive schools with predominantly Indian kids?

My main point is that schools should be race blind. First of all there are private schools with large share of non white people. Presumably you send your kids to the school you describe because it’s good. There could be other schools more ethnically diverse (specially public) that probably offer a not such a good quality of education and you decided not to send your kids there. The most important thing is to have a very high quality of education and eliminate race from the admission criteria. I think income would be a more valid approach as you would help disadvantaged and talented kids.

You are missing the main point entirely. These schools are businesses. The main goal is to attract families with money and for the k-12s, preferably 13 yrs of money. If being visibly diverse and hiring a DEI consultant attracts the money, that’s what they will do. They do not want your disadvantaged kids.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

Sorry, but we’re a full pay black family and have been in private schools since K for both children and it doesn’t matter how dedicated a school was to diversity, progressive or conservative, we have never NOT been one of only a few black families in our grade. Usually I’ve seen maximum 3-5 black kids per grade (if lucky). A couple of Asians, a few Indians here and there .. but the schools are always predominantly white. It never even close. At the mid/lower tier privates there is more diversity, but at the top schools.. forget about it.

All that to say, “should schools do away with diversity initiatives?” Implies that these diversity initiatives are actually making the schools diverse. I’m sorry they aren’t. When you’re touring schools, take the time to count the number of non-white students to white. DEI initiatives have been a thing for decades and still my daughter is one of only 5 black kids in her grade. The real question is, why aren’t there top elite black Private schools? No black boarding schools? College prep super exclusive schools with predominantly Indian kids?

My main point is that schools should be race blind. First of all there are private schools with large share of non white people. Presumably you send your kids to the school you describe because it’s good. There could be other schools more ethnically diverse (specially public) that probably offer a not such a good quality of education and you decided not to send your kids there. The most important thing is to have a very high quality of education and eliminate race from the admission criteria. I think income would be a more valid approach as you would help disadvantaged and talented kids.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

Sorry, but we’re a full pay black family and have been in private schools since K for both children and it doesn’t matter how dedicated a school was to diversity, progressive or conservative, we have never NOT been one of only a few black families in our grade. Usually I’ve seen maximum 3-5 black kids per grade (if lucky). A couple of Asians, a few Indians here and there .. but the schools are always predominantly white. It never even close. At the mid/lower tier privates there is more diversity, but at the top schools.. forget about it.

All that to say, “should schools do away with diversity initiatives?” Implies that these diversity initiatives are actually making the schools diverse. I’m sorry they aren’t. When you’re touring schools, take the time to count the number of non-white students to white. DEI initiatives have been a thing for decades and still my daughter is one of only 5 black kids in her grade. The real question is, why aren’t there top elite black Private schools? No black boarding schools? College prep super exclusive schools with predominantly Indian kids?

Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should we pay your kid’s bills for you, their tuition, just for socioeconomic diversity? That is not worth paying for.

Lots of big donors disagree.

Anonymous wrote:I am Hispanic married to an American and my kid is Caucasian. I prefer that race was not a factor in school admissions. Just because my kid is white doesn’t mean that he is less capable than a non-white one.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

OP, here's the thing. This is a pointless post and conversation because these are private schools. They can do whatever they want to, including deciding that they want an entire student body of purple people. What you or I think is not important. If you don't like the way a particular school handles this issue, send your kids to a different one.

It’s pointless because schools never truly cared about diversity in the first place. What the schools - and the families at the schools - want is a school full of wealthy families. As wealthy as possible with a few middle class kids thrown in occasionally, esp if they play a sport really well.

It’s a business.

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Anonymous wrote:By design co-ed schools try to have gender parity which is good. Now, my question is if they should continue to have some race targets. What I see is that in private schools they want to accept racially diverse students, but income wise very homegenous families. It is ok to keep this approach? Is it fair? Just basic questions since dc is so diverse and there are so many schools, not sure schools really need affirmative action. Moreover many times the non-white recruitment is highly discrecional. For some schools mean admitting more African Americans and for others more Asians. But is not clear that this is a fair or inclusive system at all since the admissions are highly dependent on the income of the parents.

OP, here's the thing. This is a pointless post and conversation because these are private schools. They can do whatever they want to, including deciding that they want an entire student body of purple people. What you or I think is not important. If you don't like the way a particular school handles this issue, send your kids to a different one.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should we pay your kid’s bills for you, their tuition, just for socioeconomic diversity? That is not worth paying for.

Lots of big donors disagree.

Anonymous wrote:Why should we pay your kid’s bills for you, their tuition, just for socioeconomic diversity? That is not worth paying for.