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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

Emilio’s baby mama sued him to formalize adequate child support, etc.

He’s no saint.

No one wrote or implied that he is. What’s your problem?

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No problem.

I just think the fact that the mother of his two children had to take him to court coupled with:

-Misleading Paula Abdul into marrying him by saying he wanted kids and then changing his mind

-Quickly being outshined by his screw-up kid brother who simply was more attractive and charismatic

-Largely being forgotten

Likely means he’s not not a saint…and probably not the favorite son or better man.

The old clips where Martin and Charlie played basketball against MJ on network tv were very telling: Charlie quickly outpaced Emilio and very likely was the favorite child…despite his flaws and faults.

Martin apparently watched the doc series with the director, so he’s obviously supportive.

I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen Martin. Is he healthy? What does he look like these days? Is he still in the public eye?

Fwiw, when I saw Charlie on Denise’s reality show earlier this year, he struck me as very grounded and healthy. I’m glad he’s in a better place and I hope we continue to see him on the screen. He’s always had the charisma and appeal to entertain.

You seem super invested on being an apologist. Good luck to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

Emilio’s baby mama sued him to formalize adequate child support, etc.

He’s no saint.

No one wrote or implied that he is. What’s your problem?

?

No problem.

I just think the fact that the mother of his two children had to take him to court coupled with:

-Misleading Paula Abdul into marrying him by saying he wanted kids and then changing his mind

-Quickly being outshined by his screw-up kid brother who simply was more attractive and charismatic

-Largely being forgotten

Likely means he’s not not a saint…and probably not the favorite son or better man.

The old clips where Martin and Charlie played basketball against MJ on network tv were very telling: Charlie quickly outpaced Emilio and very likely was the favorite child…despite his flaws and faults.

Martin apparently watched the doc series with the director, so he’s obviously supportive.

I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen Martin. Is he healthy? What does he look like these days? Is he still in the public eye?

Fwiw, when I saw Charlie on Denise’s reality show earlier this year, he struck me as very grounded and healthy. I’m glad he’s in a better place and I hope we continue to see him on the screen. He’s always had the charisma and appeal to entertain.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

Emilio’s baby mama sued him to formalize adequate child support, etc.

He’s no saint.

No one wrote or implied that he is. What’s your problem?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

Emilio’s baby mama sued him to formalize adequate child support, etc.

He’s no saint.

Anonymous wrote:The last frame of this documentary was really moving. It shows who he was before all the drinking and drugs took over and that boy is who everyone that loves him is trying to save.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Many things can be true at once. Emilio loves him. Emilio resents the negative and positive attention. Emilio resent the long term negative impact on their family and maybe even his reputation in the industry.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."

Anonymous wrote:Brooke Mueller looks and sounds like she’s so high in every interview. I feel terrible for their twins to have two crack head parents. Even if both are “sober”, their brains seem so fried from past drug use.

And the drug dealer being painted like a good guy, his best friend, and the reason he became sober because he lessened the potency of the crack he sold him. WTF?

Charlie Sheen is a classic addict. Unfortunately I have multiple substance abuse addicts in my close family and Sheen is exactly the same. So charismatic, can charm almost anyone, narcissistic, so convincing, but for those closest to him, who have a regular close relationship, he sucks the life right out of you and pulls you into their hurricane of chaos and not caring. He’s not a great guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw Charlie has a cameo on the Chuck Lorre show The Bookie. Was Sebastian Monicolo in this?

Wait Chuck Lorre hired Charlie Sheen for a job?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve got to believe Emilio loathes Charlie and his financial success. After all, Emilio was the “good” kid who didn’t fall apart like Charlie yet his career stumbled, he never got rich, and he’s not famous the way his screwed up brother is.

I lost a sibling to drugs/alcohol, so I lived through the nightmare as a sibling and watching my parents. We were upper middle class, private schools, nice house, loving parents, etc. Nobody else in our family/extended family had these issues. My take is that the addict has underlying mental health issues they were likely born with or developed over time. Sometimes there’s a traumatic incident, but sometimes it just happens and there’s nobody to blame.

Charlie—like most of the addicts I know—comes across as very charismatic. He seems like someone who needs to be around people (another common trait of addicts). It’s a miracle he’s still alive, and I think Denise played a critical role in that over the last couple decades.

Emilio Estevez is worth $18 million dollars and has a string of super recognizable movies. His career hardly "stumbled."
He may or may not loathe Charlie but I doubt it is for his "financial success."