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Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!

Yes, because 95% of Palestinians support HAMAS before and after October 7th

Do I support Netty no however I do not support the group of people that stand with HAMAS and want all Jewish people wiped off the face of this earth.

There were hundreds of thousands Gazans protesting Hamas right before 10/7. 2019 and 2023 saw the largest anti Hamas uprisings in the strip. Some Gazans even went to social media to ask for Israeli help in eliminating Hamas Hamas is literally banned from entry or political participation in the West Bank.

The idea that they have the consensus of Palestinian support is not accurate. They’re gaining in support now because of the war. When there is no war, they are unpopular

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Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

By Israel's own data they are killing more than 84% civilians. This doesn't include those trapped under the rubble or those dying from starvation, disease or lack of medical care. Essentially that means that the civilian casualty rate is well over 90%. If that's not a genocide and extermination campaign then I don't know what is.

You don't think the Palestians would have done that to Israelies given the opportunity?

They let Hamas build tunnells under schools and hospitals.

Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!

Yes, because 95% of Palestinians support HAMAS before and after October 7th

Do I support Netty no however I do not support the group of people that stand with HAMAS and want all Jewish people wiped off the face of this earth.

Who are you asking?

I for one am not anti-Semitic, nor are my Jewish friends who share my horror over the war crimes being committed by Netanyahu /the IDF.

Israelis are committing genocide. That is the majority consensus among scholars of genocide, including Israeli and Jewish scholars of genocide.
Stating this scholarly consensus is not antisemitic, but there are Jews and Israelis who will deny it and argue that the conclusion was made because the genocide scholars themselves are antisemitic. The rational thinker will realize that the accusations of antisemitism among genocide scholars are baseless, as these scholars who spend their lives dedicated to the study of genocide (not a money making career, BTW) would probably not do so unless they had compassion for the suffering of the Jews during the Holocaust.
The refusal to accept the genocide by Israelis of Gazans is not a rational one. It's based upon a psychologically-rooted belief that one's own people are simply incapable of such evil. I don't get it, but people have all sorts of mental obstacles. Look at MAGA who believe that Trump is incapable of wrong.

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But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

So Hamas didn’t come in with paragliders and gun down a bunch of young adults at a festival? They didn’t take hostages?

Oh look it’s Linda Sarsour and her brother propagating Hamas lies.

Gaza started the war. And now they suffer the consequences. A horrible thing for Gaza children but blame the Gaza adults

The poster above is a product of Jewish values.

Is it antisemtic to say that? Who defines and polices antisemitism within the Jewish community?

Oh so what are Jewish values? Because that sounds antisemitic. Might as well slap a star on me

Hamas murders innocents for decades. It’s Jewish to post out that fact?

Anonymous wrote: International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) has determined that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. This is the world’s largest association of genocide scholars, with around 500 experts on the subject including many Holocaust scholars. The consensus was reached by an overwhelming supermajority of the experts.

The “experts” used to tell people the world was flat.

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Anonymous wrote:No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

[b]So Hamas didn’t come in with paragliders and gun down a bunch of young adults at a festival? They didn’t take hostages?

Why did Netanyahu ignore the warnings? Why was there less IDF protection on the 7th? Netanyahu, IDF, Shin Bet, Mossad ignored serious warnings from Field Observers, known as “Spotters”. All Israeli women. Their warnings preceded months before 10/7, weeks before 10/7, and on that fateful day. “Then they were massacred.”

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Anonymous wrote:No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

So Hamas didn’t come in with paragliders and gun down a bunch of young adults at a festival? They didn’t take hostages?

Oh look it’s Linda Sarsour and her brother propagating Hamas lies.

Gaza started the war. And now they suffer the consequences. A horrible thing for Gaza children but blame the Gaza adults

So, you believe the genocide of Gazans by Israelis is warranted.

not warranted but a human consequence. And I do not believe it is a genocide. It’s the unfortunate consequence of war.

No, it's not. It's the truth. We need to speak the truth.

Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!

99% of the world believes Israel's aggression and indiscriminate killing in their response to the 10/7 Hamas attack has been over the top and unnecessary. Some people think Israel's actions meet the definition of genocide and some don't. Describing your perception of Israel's actions as genocide is not antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of points you can make about Palestinian corruption but anti Americanism is not one of them.

You will find more racism and antipathy toward Americans/ Christians in Israel than in the West Bank or Gaza. The only people Israel are friendlier too than Palestinians are lgbt. That’s literally it. That’s why they only use that point against Palestinians even though Israel has homophobic Orthodox Jews as well

Yes Israel is not corrupt at all. Bibi does not reflect Israeli society at all. If only Israel was held to the same standards as the Palestinians.

Bibi is a good reflection of Israeli society. The fact that the majority of Israelis support genocide or ethnic cleansing of Gaza is just one of many examples of this.

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of points you can make about Palestinian corruption but anti Americanism is not one of them.

You will find more racism and antipathy toward Americans/ Christians in Israel than in the West Bank or Gaza. The only people Israel are friendlier too than Palestinians are lgbt. That’s literally it. That’s why they only use that point against Palestinians even though Israel has homophobic Orthodox Jews as well

Yes Israel is not corrupt at all. Bibi does not reflect Israeli society at all. If only Israel was held to the same standards as the Palestinians.

There are plenty of points you can make about Palestinian corruption but anti Americanism is not one of them.

You will find more racism and antipathy toward Americans/ Christians in Israel than in the West Bank or Gaza. The only people Israel are friendlier too than Palestinians are lgbt. That’s literally it. That’s why they only use that point against Palestinians even though Israel has homophobic Orthodox Jews as well

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Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

I'm not sure what you're saying isn't true. Personally, I support Israel for a few simple reasons. 1) most importantly, supporting Palestine means supporting a nation that is openly hostile to America, my country. They openly describe us as enemies. From a sheer pragmatic standpoint, it makes no sense to support Palestine. 2) Hamas is using civilians as shields. It's sad. But its not the same as Israel "targeting civilians." 3) I spent years in a war zone. It's hell. Children die. Schools are attacked. Women are murdered or worse. What's happening in Gaza is war. It's just the only war people have become actually conscious of, and they are mistaking it for genocide. But the banality of the evil that is happening there would shock you.

Palestinians never called Americans enemies. Did you know the PLO asked the American army or UN peacekeeping force to occupy the West Bank instead of the IDF? America agreed. Do you know who declined? Do you know who called 9/11 great/happy news for their country ? It was not Yasser Arafat. It was Benjamin Netanyahu.

Do you know who went on American TV recently and said “America dead”? It was not Hamas. It was Benjamin Netanyahu.