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Anonymous wrote:MLS Next is not the same as MLS Next Academy. The latter is significantly lower in talent than the former

This is starting to pop up all over the threads. Mad ECNL parent? Nobody is getting MLS Academies confused with MLS Next clubs.

This is a triggered MLS Next parent who is annoyed that MLs has created the current mess so nobody knows who is who.

Don’t be dumb. There is MLSNext Homegrown (the good teams) and MLS Academy (think ECNL RL). And before you make a fool of yourself (again), go to the MLS website and look for yourself.

May sound dumb, but lots of parents sold MLS Academy as MLSNext Homegrown. Same patch, same social media...They basically say we are MLS Next and leave it at that. Misleading and works to draw more clubs in, but dilutes the Homegrown teams in the area as many think SYC, NVA, and Alex are the same as Revolution and St. James. Not everyone spends all day on these forums or researching youth soccer.

Those who need to know, know. Academies and college scouts. No one is being fooled.

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Anonymous wrote:MLS Next is not the same as MLS Next Academy. The latter is significantly lower in talent than the former

This is starting to pop up all over the threads. Mad ECNL parent? Nobody is getting MLS Academies confused with MLS Next clubs.

This is a triggered MLS Next parent who is annoyed that MLs has created the current mess so nobody knows who is who.

Don’t be dumb. There is MLSNext Homegrown (the good teams) and MLS Academy (think ECNL RL). And before you make a fool of yourself (again), go to the MLS website and look for yourself.

May sound dumb, but lots of parents sold MLS Academy as MLSNext Homegrown. Same patch, same social media...They basically say we are MLS Next and leave it at that. Misleading and works to draw more clubs in, but dilutes the Homegrown teams in the area as many think SYC, NVA, and Alex are the same as Revolution and St. James. Not everyone spends all day on these forums or researching youth soccer.

100% true. MLS should have thought it through more fully--and come up with appropriate branding that is unique for top tier (the real Academies like Revolution, DCU etc) their Tier 2 (Next) and Tier 3 (the new Next 2). The fact that the word academy is being used for Tier 3 is weird as most people equate that with the Tier 1 MLS. It isn't that hard to come up with differentiated language...

This. No one is confusing actual MLS academies with p2p mlsnext top tier teams. I don’t know how to properly label mlsnext 1 so I won’t.

The confusion is that tier 2 (or I guess 3??) is also called mlsnext academy.

You need to specify what “academy” you are referring to when discussing.

PS- these terms make it really difficult to have a clear conversation.

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(the real Academies like DCU etc)

I wouldn't call DCU a "real academy"

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Anonymous wrote:MLS Next is not the same as MLS Next Academy. The latter is significantly lower in talent than the former

This is starting to pop up all over the threads. Mad ECNL parent? Nobody is getting MLS Academies confused with MLS Next clubs.

This is a triggered MLS Next parent who is annoyed that MLs has created the current mess so nobody knows who is who.

Don’t be dumb. There is MLSNext Homegrown (the good teams) and MLS Academy (think ECNL RL). And before you make a fool of yourself (again), go to the MLS website and look for yourself.

May sound dumb, but lots of parents sold MLS Academy as MLSNext Homegrown. Same patch, same social media...They basically say we are MLS Next and leave it at that. Misleading and works to draw more clubs in, but dilutes the Homegrown teams in the area as many think SYC, NVA, and Alex are the same as Revolution and St. James. Not everyone spends all day on these forums or researching youth soccer.

100% true. MLS should have thought it through more fully--and come up with appropriate branding that is unique for top tier (the real Academies like Revolution, DCU etc) their Tier 2 (Next) and Tier 3 (the new Next 2). The fact that the word academy is being used for Tier 3 is weird as most people equate that with the Tier 1 MLS. It isn't that hard to come up with differentiated language...

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Anonymous wrote:MLS Next is not the same as MLS Next Academy. The latter is significantly lower in talent than the former

This is starting to pop up all over the threads. Mad ECNL parent? Nobody is getting MLS Academies confused with MLS Next clubs.

This is a triggered MLS Next parent who is annoyed that MLs has created the current mess so nobody knows who is who.

Don’t be dumb. There is MLSNext Homegrown (the good teams) and MLS Academy (think ECNL RL). And before you make a fool of yourself (again), go to the MLS website and look for yourself.

May sound dumb, but lots of parents sold MLS Academy as MLSNext Homegrown. Same patch, same social media...They basically say we are MLS Next and leave it at that. Misleading and works to draw more clubs in, but dilutes the Homegrown teams in the area as many think SYC, NVA, and Alex are the same as Revolution and St. James. Not everyone spends all day on these forums or researching youth soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the teams that bested Achilles in QoP were unable to attend the MLSN event and so Achilles was left by default. Achilles is looking pretty thin and isn’t impressing anyone with the quality of their play, they call to mind a bunch of ruffians scrabbling for the ball and it’s not too impressive. There’s no elegance to it.

“Ruffians”? Sounds like a Bethesda troll. You know, the club not invited to the MLSNext Cup last year.

My kid has been playing against Achilles since he was a little tyke and beaten them every time. They may eke out some success because of Sal’s reputation but their play is not attractive and I don’t enjoy watching them play. They have a certain reputation. Coaching is aggressive and atrocious. It’s not a Bethesda/Potomac/achilles thing, I just don’t think they’re very good and don’t like watching them play.

Cool story.

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Anonymous wrote:Achilles parent here... was suprised with the quality of the NVA 2013 team. Are they new to MLS Next?

NVA is new to MLS Next. I do not know the quality of their teams across all age groups. But they have a strong 2013 team. Many of the kids were at Bethesda last year (maybe also from SYC and Armour?)

Open competition for team roster spots, lot of Loudoun kids too but they have to earn a spot like everyone else.

there is a good mix of bethesda and virginia valor(state champ) on 2013. new coach brought his bethesda futsal players and dumped most of loudoun players when he arrived

Put your reading glasses on. The title read MLSN no one cares about ECNL.

Anonymous wrote:On the ECNL side, ARL and VDA look to be off to a good start. Long season for FVU.

My son has never lost to them either but I don’t think that matters. I do question what you think is attractive football because I watched them possess the ball against us for a full 2-3 minutes which does not ever happen to us. They receive excellent technical instruction which I only get from one coach in my club and not our current coach.

They don’t have the best talent and their behavior is atrocious but they know how to develop. They don’t care about winning which was a complaint I heard from their parents. In that sense, they have it right. Results do not matter for development. If more coaches did focus on the fundamentals and technical abilities of players, you would make the club obsolete. But locally, people are more focused on tactics and winning which makes them one of the only viable options I would consider outside of my current club.

Unfortunately, the behavior is systemic and that prevents me from fully buying into it. I watched one of their parents approach the ref after a tackle. I was a little in shock at the behavior and I have personally intervened in those situations. Approaching a ref is a line I do not believe should be crossed and I was a little disappointed as I believe in what they fundamentally do.

On a completely separate team, we all saw two players fighting with each other. My son says one called the other a 8!+ch @$$ n!@@a (neither were black) and the other was cursing all over the pitch. I actually believe in the fundamental training environment but those are some tough pills to swallow from someone who actually believes in the coaching.

Technically, they know what they are doing and beating them is not a flex as most of the major teams, especially a SYC, will have better athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the teams that bested Achilles in QoP were unable to attend the MLSN event and so Achilles was left by default. Achilles is looking pretty thin and isn’t impressing anyone with the quality of their play, they call to mind a bunch of ruffians scrabbling for the ball and it’s not too impressive. There’s no elegance to it.

“Ruffians”? Sounds like a Bethesda troll. You know, the club not invited to the MLSNext Cup last year.

My kid has been playing against Achilles since he was a little tyke and beaten them every time. They may eke out some success because of Sal’s reputation but their play is not attractive and I don’t enjoy watching them play. They have a certain reputation. Coaching is aggressive and atrocious. It’s not a Bethesda/Potomac/achilles thing, I just don’t think they’re very good and don’t like watching them play.

Hahah. Like clockwork.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the teams that bested Achilles in QoP were unable to attend the MLSN event and so Achilles was left by default. Achilles is looking pretty thin and isn’t impressing anyone with the quality of their play, they call to mind a bunch of ruffians scrabbling for the ball and it’s not too impressive. There’s no elegance to it.

“Ruffians”? Sounds like a Bethesda troll. You know, the club not invited to the MLSNext Cup last year.

My kid has been playing against Achilles since he was a little tyke and beaten them every time. They may eke out some success because of Sal’s reputation but their play is not attractive and I don’t enjoy watching them play. They have a certain reputation. Coaching is aggressive and atrocious. It’s not a Bethesda/Potomac/achilles thing, I just don’t think they’re very good and don’t like watching them play.

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Anonymous wrote:Achilles beat everyone in quality of play

it's a boutique way of scoring games

I like this new way of attacking Achilles. It's funnier. It's still unwarranted and desperate, but definitely funnier.

Agree 100%. But now I’m worried we’ve typed the name once too often and the algos are alerted.

The Achilles Stalker will be here shortly…

Anonymous wrote:Actually the teams that bested Achilles in QoP were unable to attend the MLSN event and so Achilles was left by default. Achilles is looking pretty thin and isn’t impressing anyone with the quality of their play, they call to mind a bunch of ruffians scrabbling for the ball and it’s not too impressive. There’s no elegance to it.

“Ruffians”? Sounds like a Bethesda troll. You know, the club not invited to the MLSNext Cup last year.

Anonymous wrote:Achilles parent here... was suprised with the quality of the NVA 2013 team. Are they new to MLS Next?

NVA 2012 is in for a long season…