Anonymous
Post 08/27/2025 07:05     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



I’m not sure they can effectively determine whether it’s the virus or vax that is problematic.

I know a lot of young women who have developed bizarre health issues since covid. Think: vascular compressions requiring transplants/artery rerouting. These were otherwise healthy girls. There are a limited number of specialists who can do such a surgery, and those specialists can’t pinpoint if it’s the vac or virus that prompted the issue.

My pediatrician group is plugged into the CDC and the latest research. Regardless, commonsense dictates there’s no need to continue to vaccinate healthy kids when covid is presenting like a cold for most people.



I’d love to know how you know “a lot of young women” who have developed bizarre health issues since COViD. I have a teen at an all girls school who also plays a sport with public school girls (since before COVID). We know zero girls that have this problem. How do you know sooooo many young women? Oh, your internet algorithm? Yeah, that doesn’t count. Anecdotes like mine and yours don’t count. Science does.


+1. If the PP actually did have evidence of this Covid issue cluster, they can easily document that to a qualified health professional who could inform local health authorities. But the PP just doesn’t like vaccines and is making up stuff.


It’s currently being tracked and studied.

It’s complicated because the patients have developed so many ailments that it’s become a chicken or egg situation.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 21:32     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media literacy note: the person quoted in this piece is attempting to make a COVID vaccine ban happen by talking about it. By reporting it as though it is happening (while DJT is on TV talking about Operation Warp Speed as his great achievement, no less!), this piece is furthering that aim.


Or alternatively, medical professionals can anticipate the dialogue being put forth by uneducated ideologues at HHS and try to mobilize the scientific community to ensure that access to vaccines isn’t curtailed.


Check out the vaccine integrity project
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 21:29     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

when the next pandemic comes along..and there will be one....everyone will be looking to research to produce a vaccine to get us out...
Unfortunately RFK and his loonies are dismantling the system and the US is asleep at the wheel with hardly anyone left. It is going to be UGLY.
Trump will point fingers at Biden since no one wants to call his on his BS. I'm sure he can just fire someone who tells him the sky is falling. Peace out. You reap what you sow...you voted for it so no complaining when it all goes to hell
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 21:27     Subject: Re:Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:Odd. Today Trump is touting it as one of his miracle achievements.




Every thing he says is odd and insane. Why would this be any different?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 20:42     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media literacy note: the person quoted in this piece is attempting to make a COVID vaccine ban happen by talking about it. By reporting it as though it is happening (while DJT is on TV talking about Operation Warp Speed as his great achievement, no less!), this piece is furthering that aim.


Or alternatively, medical professionals can anticipate the dialogue being put forth by uneducated ideologues at HHS and try to mobilize the scientific community to ensure that access to vaccines isn’t curtailed.


Yeah, that’s not what this article is doing. Lovely idea tho.


The article is reporting quotes from a man close to RFK Jr about discussions to get rid of access to COVID vaccines. If you want to play ostrich by pretending those discussions aren’t occurring and wait til the announcement is made to pay attention, that’s your decision.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 18:38     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media literacy note: the person quoted in this piece is attempting to make a COVID vaccine ban happen by talking about it. By reporting it as though it is happening (while DJT is on TV talking about Operation Warp Speed as his great achievement, no less!), this piece is furthering that aim.


Or alternatively, medical professionals can anticipate the dialogue being put forth by uneducated ideologues at HHS and try to mobilize the scientific community to ensure that access to vaccines isn’t curtailed.


Yeah, that’s not what this article is doing. Lovely idea tho.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 18:13     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



Or maybe some DCUM ignorant folk need to stop posting garbage that fits their uninformed scientific “opinions” and attributing it wrongly actual health professionals


Are you implying these are “wrongly actual health professionals”? Dr Topol and American heart association?


No-those links were great. Was just saying that people like the PP post garbage all the time and say their pediatrician told them xyz when such interaction never occurred, so blaming the pediatrician for being uninformed may be incorrect


Thank you for clearing that up. I hate to say it, but there are physicians out there who are misguided or misinformed and share info that is incorrect. A pediatrician may not have studied virology as intensely as an infectious disease fellow, but general public doesn’t know that.
Doctors only receive about 30 mns of nutrition education TOTAL yet people think they are the authority on diet.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 18:02     Subject: Re:Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:Odd. Today Trump is touting it as one of his miracle achievements.



What?

It was Biden and Fauci who did the great job of getting COVID under control in US. Even the vaccine happened when Biden was elected. God really blessed us for voting for Biden.

Wasn't Trump asking us to drink bleach or something? LOL.

Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:34     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

lol remember medical freedom
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:31     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



Or maybe some DCUM ignorant folk need to stop posting garbage that fits their uninformed scientific “opinions” and attributing it wrongly actual health professionals


Are you implying these are “wrongly actual health professionals”? Dr Topol and American heart association?


No-those links were great. Was just saying that people like the PP post garbage all the time and say their pediatrician told them xyz when such interaction never occurred, so blaming the pediatrician for being uninformed may be incorrect
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:29     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:Media literacy note: the person quoted in this piece is attempting to make a COVID vaccine ban happen by talking about it. By reporting it as though it is happening (while DJT is on TV talking about Operation Warp Speed as his great achievement, no less!), this piece is furthering that aim.


Or alternatively, medical professionals can anticipate the dialogue being put forth by uneducated ideologues at HHS and try to mobilize the scientific community to ensure that access to vaccines isn’t curtailed.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:25     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



Or maybe some DCUM ignorant folk need to stop posting garbage that fits their uninformed scientific “opinions” and attributing it wrongly actual health professionals


Are you implying these are “wrongly actual health professionals”? Dr Topol and American heart association?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:24     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



I’m not sure they can effectively determine whether it’s the virus or vax that is problematic.

I know a lot of young women who have developed bizarre health issues since covid. Think: vascular compressions requiring transplants/artery rerouting. These were otherwise healthy girls. There are a limited number of specialists who can do such a surgery, and those specialists can’t pinpoint if it’s the vac or virus that prompted the issue.

My pediatrician group is plugged into the CDC and the latest research. Regardless, commonsense dictates there’s no need to continue to vaccinate healthy kids when covid is presenting like a cold for most people.



I’d love to know how you know “a lot of young women” who have developed bizarre health issues since COViD. I have a teen at an all girls school who also plays a sport with public school girls (since before COVID). We know zero girls that have this problem. How do you know sooooo many young women? Oh, your internet algorithm? Yeah, that doesn’t count. Anecdotes like mine and yours don’t count. Science does.


+1. If the PP actually did have evidence of this Covid issue cluster, they can easily document that to a qualified health professional who could inform local health authorities. But the PP just doesn’t like vaccines and is making up stuff.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:22     Subject: Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there recent research from Europe saying either covid or the vaccine (they aren’t sure) ages your blood vessels by 5 years on average—noting the link to vasculitis (among other issues)?

Perhaps that’s why most doctors aren’t recommending it for kids and healthy adults any longer?

FTR I got the original vax and was boosted, but I haven’t opted for continual covid vaccines. I’m also a lifelong liberal who would never vote for a R. But my pediatrician stopped recommending the covid vaccine a while ago based on “the science,” so I feel like research has evolved.

Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps there is a middle ground?


This is incorrect. The American pediatric assoc and American assoc of gyn and obstetrics both just strongly recommended the covid booster for pregnant women and children because of the wave and danger they are seeing to kids in ER. Just to clarify, those associations are made up of doctors.

The study you are referring to shows that Covid virus (not vaccine) ages vessels, most notably in women.

https://www.heart.org/en/news/2025/01/16/how-the-virus-behind-covid-19-can-harm-your-blood-vessels-and-your-heart

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-and-our-arteries

I think maybe your pediatrician needs a refresher course.



Or maybe some DCUM ignorant folk need to stop posting garbage that fits their uninformed scientific “opinions” and attributing it wrongly actual health professionals
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:13     Subject: Re:Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

RFK, Jr., Demanded a Vaccine Study Be Retracted—The Journal Said No.
“The study in question, published in Annals of Internal Medicine in July, is one of the largest of its kind, looking at 1.2 million children born over more than two decades in Denmark. The authors reported that no significant risk of developing autoimmune, allergic or neurodevelopmental disorders was associated with exposure to aluminium compounds in vaccines.”
https://apple.news/AXMJankaHQBWG1CJrfybLjg