My kid got 600 in spring iready math. Still no email. I guess our school is not doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the exact language from the email - perhaps they are looking at score breakdowns on specific skills/standards too? My kid who qualified for the virtual pilot got a 555 on the spring math iReady if that's helpful.



Participation in the pilot is based on specific academic criteria. Your child has been identified as a strong candidate for this program because they met the qualifying criteria:

- Passed advanced on their Math 6 SOL, indicating a deep understanding of the 6th-grade math standards, including concepts like rational numbers, expressions, and equations, which are all prerequisites for success in Algebra 1.
- 1125Q quantile on their iReady assessment, suggesting they are ready for more complex content and are showing readiness for Algebra topics.

Thank you. What percentile on the iready is that?

Here is the exact language from the email - perhaps they are looking at score breakdowns on specific skills/standards too? My kid who qualified for the virtual pilot got a 555 on the spring math iReady if that's helpful.



Participation in the pilot is based on specific academic criteria. Your child has been identified as a strong candidate for this program because they met the qualifying criteria:

- Passed advanced on their Math 6 SOL, indicating a deep understanding of the 6th-grade math standards, including concepts like rational numbers, expressions, and equations, which are all prerequisites for success in Algebra 1.
- 1125Q quantile on their iReady assessment, suggesting they are ready for more complex content and are showing readiness for Algebra topics.

Anonymous wrote:It's good that they're basing decisions on a test taken at the end of 5th grade rather than using 2nd grade CogAT scores. It's also good if they can discourage or eliminate kids taking summer geometry to get ahead.

I hope the cut scores they're using are sufficiently high. Placing kids into Algebra who aren't ready and haven't yet mastered the fundamentals is a horrible idea. The 1125 Q score appears to be the average of a 75th percentile spring 8th grader and a 75th percentile fall 9th grader, so it honestly seems pretty reasonable for algebra readiness.

PP here again. There doesn't seem to be a quantile to iready score conversion chart. But, based on the 75th percentile thing, they seem to be looking for a score around 550. This is 99th percentile, but not that far above the 99th percentile cut for spring of 5th grade.

It's good that they're basing decisions on a test taken at the end of 5th grade rather than using 2nd grade CogAT scores. It's also good if they can discourage or eliminate kids taking summer geometry to get ahead.

I hope the cut scores they're using are sufficiently high. Placing kids into Algebra who aren't ready and haven't yet mastered the fundamentals is a horrible idea. The 1125 Q score appears to be the average of a 75th percentile spring 8th grader and a 75th percentile fall 9th grader, so it honestly seems pretty reasonable for algebra readiness.

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Anonymous wrote:A pass advance on the 6th grade SOL is an invitation to skip 2 years of prealgebra? Ooof.

The Teachers know what kids are bored with math and could be challenged more.They have more then the 5th grade scores. They might cite those specific scores but I would guess they are looking back on iReady scores and Teacher comments from K on. DS 2nd grade teacher was able to tell us he would be in Advanced Math in 3rd grade during the parent teacher conference at the beginning of the year. I would guess that there were a few other kids she could identify as well, just knowing his classmates.

I’m a pilot school teacher. None of this happened for the pilot. The county identified kids based on the two criteria mentioned above. Schools and teachers had no input. Nothing qualitative was looked at, just those two data points.

Yeah, I can see that. The State law that was passed set some measures that were supposed to be used and it seemed like it was a pure cut off based on SOLs and other similar metrics. I am guessing that the legislature had parents complaining that their kid wasn't included even with similar test scores and this is meant to remove the objective measures. I don't think it is a great call.

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Anonymous wrote:A pass advance on the 6th grade SOL is an invitation to skip 2 years of prealgebra? Ooof.

The Teachers know what kids are bored with math and could be challenged more.They have more then the 5th grade scores. They might cite those specific scores but I would guess they are looking back on iReady scores and Teacher comments from K on. DS 2nd grade teacher was able to tell us he would be in Advanced Math in 3rd grade during the parent teacher conference at the beginning of the year. I would guess that there were a few other kids she could identify as well, just knowing his classmates.

I’m a pilot school teacher. None of this happened for the pilot. The county identified kids based on the two criteria mentioned above. Schools and teachers had no input. Nothing qualitative was looked at, just those two data points.

Do you mind sharing what is the second data point? The one related to iReady and where to check that in records sent to parents.

iReady scores and passing advanced on the 6th grade SOL are the two criterea that I saw in posts. The iReady score listed is not one that I have seen as a parent, unless it is the fall and spring scores added together.

Anonymous wrote:My kid got a high advanced pass on 6th SOL and high iready score and it would benefit from this pilot. However we did not receive an email. I sent a email to school and waiting to hear back.

This will be a good choice for the kids who already did algebra enrichment. However if our school is not participate this pilot, we will miss this chance.

I know some family moved to private because it’s hard to skip the math in FCPS. If people know about this sooner, they would move to the school who participate the pilot program.

Your school might not be involved in the pilot. Someone said it was 25 schools, that is a drop in the bucket for FCPS ESs.

Getting grounded in Algebra is very important and shouldn’t be rushed. It isn’t just being able to understand the concepts, it’s about taking the time for the brain to fully integrate them and use them going forward. It is foundational. I don’t see how taking Algebra 1 honors in 6th grade would be beneficial.

Your kid would have been fine in Algebra in 6th grade, at least the way you describe him. You could also opt him out. DS loves math and has been taking math competition classes since 3rd grade. He scored in the 95th percentile on the AMC 8 as a 6th grader and missed one question as a 7th grader. He was more then ready for Algebra 1H as a 6th grader. His school didn't have a path for him and we were not interested in sending him to the MS to take the class so we did not press. Had there been an option for him to take Algebra 1H at his base school in 6th grade, we would have accepted that for him.

No one is saying that this class is for everyone, probably 1-2% of the kids at any ES are in a position to take the class in 6th grade and some of those parents will opt out. DS was bored in ES math, he did everything that was asked/required because that is what we expected and he is a rule follower. We reminded him that it was good practice of foundational skills which would help as he progressed in math. Algebra 1H in 7th grade as academically easy for him, the pace was faster but that was about it. He never had homework, he completed everything at school. We expect the same for Geometry, although he is less likely to enjoy the class because he is not a huge geometry fan.

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Anonymous wrote:A pass advance on the 6th grade SOL is an invitation to skip 2 years of prealgebra? Ooof.

The Teachers know what kids are bored with math and could be challenged more.They have more then the 5th grade scores. They might cite those specific scores but I would guess they are looking back on iReady scores and Teacher comments from K on. DS 2nd grade teacher was able to tell us he would be in Advanced Math in 3rd grade during the parent teacher conference at the beginning of the year. I would guess that there were a few other kids she could identify as well, just knowing his classmates.

I’m a pilot school teacher. None of this happened for the pilot. The county identified kids based on the two criteria mentioned above. Schools and teachers had no input. Nothing qualitative was looked at, just those two data points.

Do you mind sharing what is the second data point? The one related to iReady and where to check that in records sent to parents.

My kid got a high advanced pass on 6th SOL and high iready score and it would benefit from this pilot. However we did not receive an email. I sent a email to school and waiting to hear back.

This will be a good choice for the kids who already did algebra enrichment. However if our school is not participate this pilot, we will miss this chance.

I know some family moved to private because it’s hard to skip the math in FCPS. If people know about this sooner, they would move to the school who participate the pilot program.

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Anonymous wrote:A pass advance on the 6th grade SOL is an invitation to skip 2 years of prealgebra? Ooof.

The Teachers know what kids are bored with math and could be challenged more.They have more then the 5th grade scores. They might cite those specific scores but I would guess they are looking back on iReady scores and Teacher comments from K on. DS 2nd grade teacher was able to tell us he would be in Advanced Math in 3rd grade during the parent teacher conference at the beginning of the year. I would guess that there were a few other kids she could identify as well, just knowing his classmates.

I’m a pilot school teacher. None of this happened for the pilot. The county identified kids based on the two criteria mentioned above. Schools and teachers had no input. Nothing qualitative was looked at, just those two data points.

Anonymous wrote:A pass advance on the 6th grade SOL is an invitation to skip 2 years of prealgebra? Ooof.

The Teachers know what kids are bored with math and could be challenged more.They have more then the 5th grade scores. They might cite those specific scores but I would guess they are looking back on iReady scores and Teacher comments from K on. DS 2nd grade teacher was able to tell us he would be in Advanced Math in 3rd grade during the parent teacher conference at the beginning of the year. I would guess that there were a few other kids she could identify as well, just knowing his classmates.

What will they take in HS and college? My DC took Honors Algebra in 7th grade, BC Calc in 11th, and the DE with GMU for Multivariable calculus and linear algebra. In college they gave him a year credit for the BC Calc and a semester’ credit for the multivar and linear algebra - considered a sophomore class.

He took AP stats in 10th grade

He ended up being a math major and was able to graduate in three years. With his other AP courses, he hit his university’s max on credits to be applicable to graduation. After graduation, he ended up in a math PhD program.

Getting grounded in Algebra is very important and shouldn’t be rushed. It isn’t just being able to understand the concepts, it’s about taking the time for the brain to fully integrate them and use them going forward. It is foundational. I don’t see how taking Algebra 1 honors in 6th grade would be beneficial.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a rising 6th grader in a school doing the pilot. I think it's a terrible idea. My eldest is entering high school and so many of their friends suffered throughout geometry last year. I can't imagine a large number doing algebra 2 in 8th grade. Hard pass.

The kids who can handle Algebra 1 H, and there are a number of them who can, are not going to suffer through Geometry. They might not like it, the math is different then Algebra, but they a likely to do well in the class without it being hard. There are around 300 kids taking Algebra 2 H in 8th grade already, what this program is likely to do is cut down on the number of kids taking Geometry in the summer to get to Algebra 2 in 8th grade.

There will be kids selected who are not a great fit, it happens with Algebra 1H in 7th grade, hopefully the schools have a good mechanism for transitioning those kids back into the AAP Math class. But there are kids who will thrive in the more advanced math class. I wish this had been an option for mine.