Anonymous
08/01/2025 11:52
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
I think it is Ivy Equivalent. But don't worry about those who don't.
I was at my oncologist's office and she was asking if my HS freshman has thought about colleges. I was saying that she'd like to go to Duke, like I did, but what a very tough admit these days. The doctor said, Oh that's an Ivy League school. I was like, well technically it isn't but, yes, it's a very prestigious school. And the doctor was like- No, it definitely is Ivy League. lol
She meant it's very good, and she doesn't know about IL being just an athletic conference blah blah blah. Anyway, the point is, here is this brilliant doctor (saved my life!) and she doesn't know these details. (Also she is from a different country, but still.)
So try not to worry about this stuff!
I was at my oncologist's office and she was asking if my HS freshman has thought about colleges. I was saying that she'd like to go to Duke, like I did, but what a very tough admit these days. The doctor said, Oh that's an Ivy League school. I was like, well technically it isn't but, yes, it's a very prestigious school. And the doctor was like- No, it definitely is Ivy League. lol
She meant it's very good, and she doesn't know about IL being just an athletic conference blah blah blah. Anyway, the point is, here is this brilliant doctor (saved my life!) and she doesn't know these details. (Also she is from a different country, but still.)
So try not to worry about this stuff!
Anonymous
08/01/2025 11:39
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What schools are “ivy-plus”
UMD calls themselves a “public ivy”
This thread is garbage like all the subjective, strivery, clout-chasing prestige fights on this board, but I’m going to stick up for the Terps here. They didn’t decide to call themselves a public Ivy. The school was included on a list of the strongest flagships in the country. That moniker is no more or less valid than Ivy+. You certainly seem like someone who cares about NW’s perceived lack of prestige wrt the Ivies so why don’t you concentrate on that.
Yeah..the UMD thing came out of nowhere.
The regional AO from UMD did a webinar for our MCPS school. She started her presentation by saying, “University of Maryland is considered a public ivy.”
I kid you not.
FWIW, I turned down MIT for NU. Very happy with the outcome! Go Wildcats!
FWIW My kid turned downed NU this cycle for a top public. He liked both but one was considerably cheaper. Well, that and the better weather
Anonymous
08/01/2025 11:35
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:As someone who went to a top ten school, I'm going to tell you: no one cares. My best intern right now is from the University of South Carolina.
ssshhh. Don't tell them.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 11:26
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What schools are “ivy-plus”
UMD calls themselves a “public ivy”
This thread is garbage like all the subjective, strivery, clout-chasing prestige fights on this board, but I’m going to stick up for the Terps here. They didn’t decide to call themselves a public Ivy. The school was included on a list of the strongest flagships in the country. That moniker is no more or less valid than Ivy+. You certainly seem like someone who cares about NW’s perceived lack of prestige wrt the Ivies so why don’t you concentrate on that.
Yeah..the UMD thing came out of nowhere.
The regional AO from UMD did a webinar for our MCPS school. She started her presentation by saying, “University of Maryland is considered a public ivy.”
I kid you not.
FWIW, I turned down MIT for NU. Very happy with the outcome! Go Wildcats!
Anonymous
08/01/2025 10:02
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:As someone who went to a top ten school, I'm going to tell you: no one cares. My best intern right now is from the University of South Carolina.
The East Coast USC (U South Carolina), has a solid Honors College and is ranked #1 for undergraduate International Business. Nevertheless, we do not know the duties & responsibilities of your interns, so it might mean best at fetching coffee, most pleasant personality, etc.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:48
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I realize it is a made up category, but at the same time, it’s just a shorthand for a quality signifier! So why does Northwestern not make that “Ivy Plus” cut, in spite of its current ranking at #6?
Did YOU go to Northwestern or something?
It's a top 10 school.
Top 10 is referenced incessantly by the DCUM crowd.
Is that enough for you?
No agreement on the "top 10" schools.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:43
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:I realize it is a made up category, but at the same time, it’s just a shorthand for a quality signifier! So why does Northwestern not make that “Ivy Plus” cut, in spite of its current ranking at #6?
Ivy Plus according to who? These are just made up categories.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:41
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:I realize it is a made up category, but at the same time, it’s just a shorthand for a quality signifier! So why does Northwestern not make that “Ivy Plus” cut, in spite of its current ranking at #6?
Did YOU go to Northwestern or something?
It's a top 10 school.
Top 10 is referenced incessantly by the DCUM crowd.
Is that enough for you?
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:31
Subject: Re:Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools.
In 1980, the Ivy League wanted Northwestern to join the Ivy League, but Northwestern's athletics director put a stop to it due to concern about constant travel to the East for athletic events.
With respect to athletic leagues, the Big Ten Conference is far superior to the Ivy League.
Also, when the University of Chicago was teetering financially, U Chicago looked to Northwestern as their hope to remain solvent.
Northwestern's endowment exceeds that of several Ivy League schools.
Seems like Cornell is a better fit for the Big Ten Conference (as Cornell's agriculture school could find compatriots in the Big Ten) and that Northwestern is a better fit for the Ivy League.
Current "Ivy plus" schools are, typically, Stanford, Duke, & U Chicago--all outstanding academic institutions as is Northwestern University.
At least Northwestern has a magnificent setting on its own ocean (Lake Michigan).
Northwestern is a fantastic school but its endowment per student is lower than most Ivies.
Princeton $4,103,050
Yale $2,426,601
Harvard $2,012,725
Dartmouth $1,226,915
Penn $855,494
Brown $605,048
Northwestern $538,953
Cornell $389,734
Informative article on the endowment tax shows that Brown & Northwestern will pay 1.4%, while Harvard, Yale, & Princeton will pay an endowment tax at the rate of 8%. (U Penn & Dartmouth College will be taxed at a 4% rate.)
https://aei.org/education/how-much-will-universities-pay-in-endowment-tax/
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:27
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
As someone who went to a top ten school, I'm going to tell you: no one cares. My best intern right now is from the University of South Carolina.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:23
Subject: Re:Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools.
In 1980, the Ivy League wanted Northwestern to join the Ivy League, but Northwestern's athletics director put a stop to it due to concern about constant travel to the East for athletic events.
With respect to athletic leagues, the Big Ten Conference is far superior to the Ivy League.
Also, when the University of Chicago was teetering financially, U Chicago looked to Northwestern as their hope to remain solvent.
Northwestern's endowment exceeds that of several Ivy League schools.
Seems like Cornell is a better fit for the Big Ten Conference (as Cornell's agriculture school could find compatriots in the Big Ten) and that Northwestern is a better fit for the Ivy League.
Current "Ivy plus" schools are, typically, Stanford, Duke, & U Chicago--all outstanding academic institutions as is Northwestern University.
At least Northwestern has a magnificent setting on its own ocean (Lake Michigan).
Northwestern is a fantastic school but its endowment per student is lower than most Ivies.
Princeton $4,103,050
Yale $2,426,601
Harvard $2,012,725
Dartmouth $1,226,915
Penn $855,494
Brown $605,048
Northwestern $538,953
Cornell $389,734
Excellent point. Of course, I was referring to the overall total endowment per school, not the per capita breakdown. Both overall & per capita are important numbers with respect to college & university endowments.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:20
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.
This is just not true. My kid isn’t even considering applying to NW. it isn’t as desirable for a backup reach.
Your kid probably wouldn’t get in. Also, lots of kids do stupid things. Don’t tell us about your kid unless they were already accepted and are making a decision.
He probably would get in. It doesn’t matter. He has no interest in going to the Midwest.
Haha no. The acceptance rate is 7%. You are completely out of touch. Let us know where he lands, boo.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:14
Subject: Re:Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than 5 of the 8 Ivy League schools.
In 1980, the Ivy League wanted Northwestern to join the Ivy League, but Northwestern's athletics director put a stop to it due to concern about constant travel to the East for athletic events.
With respect to athletic leagues, the Big Ten Conference is far superior to the Ivy League.
Also, when the University of Chicago was teetering financially, U Chicago looked to Northwestern as their hope to remain solvent.
Northwestern's endowment exceeds that of several Ivy League schools.
Seems like Cornell is a better fit for the Big Ten Conference (as Cornell's agriculture school could find compatriots in the Big Ten) and that Northwestern is a better fit for the Ivy League.
Current "Ivy plus" schools are, typically, Stanford, Duke, & U Chicago--all outstanding academic institutions as is Northwestern University.
At least Northwestern has a magnificent setting on its own ocean (Lake Michigan).
Northwestern is a fantastic school but its endowment per student is lower than most Ivies.
Princeton $4,103,050
Yale $2,426,601
Harvard $2,012,725
Dartmouth $1,226,915
Penn $855,494
Brown $605,048
Northwestern $538,953
Cornell $389,734
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:06
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ivys are coasting on their reputations-the cat is now out of the bag with all of the recent bad press and reputations with employers. Many kids would pick NU over all Ivys except HYP. They deserve their high rankings on USNWR.
This is just not true. My kid isn’t even considering applying to NW. it isn’t as desirable for a backup reach.
Your kid probably wouldn’t get in. Also, lots of kids do stupid things. Don’t tell us about your kid unless they were already accepted and are making a decision.
He probably would get in. It doesn’t matter. He has no interest in going to the Midwest.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:02
Subject: Why do you think Northwestern is not in the “ivy plus“ bracket?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What schools are “ivy-plus”
UMD calls themselves a “public ivy”
This thread is garbage like all the subjective, strivery, clout-chasing prestige fights on this board, but I’m going to stick up for the Terps here. They didn’t decide to call themselves a public Ivy. The school was included on a list of the strongest flagships in the country. That moniker is no more or less valid than Ivy+. You certainly seem like someone who cares about NW’s perceived lack of prestige wrt the Ivies so why don’t you concentrate on that.
Yeah..the UMD thing came out of nowhere.