Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how a top leadership kid who knows what he wants in life is outsourcing this to mommy. He should research his schools, apply where he wants and see where the chips fall. It’s not like he’s not going to have good options.

You'd be surprised. Without the right strategy, a lot of boys in this range can get squeezed on both ends and end up at their state flagship or a random LAC.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

There are other factors to consider, AOs don't look at 3.5 in isolation. National awards? Highest rigor? High test scores? Recommendation? All these factors can prove academic competency.

I think that's what this whole post is about. But I think the point was that a lot of schools will automatically drop a 3.5 kid and, ironically, HYPS are not among those schools. this kid will be a long shot but considering the rest of the application has *some* shot.

PP. Agree, and I think all T20 don't autoreject 3.5.

But also HW is not just any regional feeder school. Unless OP's school is at HW level, I would think more realistically.

100% why does one person always drop the HW link? Its not relevant....

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

There are other factors to consider, AOs don't look at 3.5 in isolation. National awards? Highest rigor? High test scores? Recommendation? All these factors can prove academic competency.

I think that's what this whole post is about. But I think the point was that a lot of schools will automatically drop a 3.5 kid and, ironically, HYPS are not among those schools. this kid will be a long shot but considering the rest of the application has *some* shot.

PP. Agree, and I think all T20 don't autoreject 3.5.

But also HW is not just any regional feeder school. Unless OP's school is at HW level, I would think more realistically.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

There are other factors to consider, AOs don't look at 3.5 in isolation. National awards? Highest rigor? High test scores? Recommendation? All these factors can prove academic competency.

I think that's what this whole post is about. But I think the point was that a lot of schools will automatically drop a 3.5 kid and, ironically, HYPS are not among those schools. this kid will be a long shot but considering the rest of the application has *some* shot.

Agree. OP: get a great essay editor. The essays/packaging will need to be top notch, especially from a private (they'll expect a more polished essay from privates).
Think about the hook/narrative/soundbite whatever you call it. Help your kid package themselves.
Sounds like my DS tbh.
At Ivy in RD.
GL!!!

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

I actually found this thread more helpful than the old HW data.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1255948.page

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy luvs leadership - kid would be a shoo in

Agree. I said that earlier. But has to be ED 1 or 2 (expect a deferral and admit in RD) - at least that's what happens at our private for some kids with this GPA. Like this kid:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1cb98e3/asian_male_humanity_major/

Take a look at what "successful" private HS Princeton profiles look like:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1d12r4o/white_boy_gets_into_25_hypsm/

Interesting profile here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/tvkhv2/white_dude_from_ny_gets_what_he_deserves_probably/

yep my kid is there now - public school unhooked went TO - nothing national level for ECs but strong leadership captain sport and school clubs student gov etc. Must be ED1

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

There are other factors to consider, AOs don't look at 3.5 in isolation. National awards? Highest rigor? High test scores? Recommendation? All these factors can prove academic competency.

I think that's what this whole post is about. But I think the point was that a lot of schools will automatically drop a 3.5 kid and, ironically, HYPS are not among those schools. this kid will be a long shot but considering the rest of the application has *some* shot.

Anonymous wrote:I also don't think OP should over-focus on leadership. Overall it's a really solid application. Is your school a feeder to Dartmouth?

This is horrible advice.

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d

There are other factors to consider, AOs don't look at 3.5 in isolation. National awards? Highest rigor? High test scores? Recommendation? All these factors can prove academic competency.

Anonymous wrote:Vandy luvs leadership - kid would be a shoo in

Agree. I said that earlier. But has to be ED 1 or 2 (expect a deferral and admit in RD) - at least that's what happens at our private for some kids with this GPA. Like this kid:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1cb98e3/asian_male_humanity_major/

Take a look at what "successful" private HS Princeton profiles look like:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1d12r4o/white_boy_gets_into_25_hypsm/

Interesting profile here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/tvkhv2/white_dude_from_ny_gets_what_he_deserves_probably/

Anonymous wrote:I also don't think OP should over-focus on leadership. Overall it's a really solid application. Is your school a feeder to Dartmouth?

OP the opposite! As a result, we dont send a ton of application there, but still - the data is clear.

I don’t understand how a top leadership kid who knows what he wants in life is outsourcing this to mommy. He should research his schools, apply where he wants and see where the chips fall. It’s not like he’s not going to have good options.

I also don't think OP should over-focus on leadership. Overall it's a really solid application. Is your school a feeder to Dartmouth?

Anonymous wrote:Vandy luvs leadership - kid would be a shoo in

This is interesting to me. Had no idea.

FWIW, private feeder IS a hook.

my usual reminder to check out the HW college counseling book for their acceptances. they remove the hooked kids. you'll see Harvard will take a 3.5 kid every year and Middlebury won't.

this is from feeder schools only

https://students.hw.com/Portals/44/handbook0125.pdf?ver=mCSTXqyrt4IYDI-PvMShlQ%3d%3d