Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:43     Subject: Re:The job market sucks…

my son has a master's in a white collar field and has had no offers since he started looking in earnest in February. Terrible.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:25     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


I joined a start up with a 50 percent pay cut. I got a lot of RSUs and left after two years and had a lot of great experience. In end not public yet But my stock is worth the difference. would have stayed longer but need more base. But if Single I would have stayed. It was cool, hip, learning like crazy and would have stayed four years to fully vest.


If that's true I'm really happy for you. Your experience is rare unfortunately.


What's rare? Clearly, all the people that took a chance on Google, Meta, Amazon and hundreds of other companies that were acquired or also went public made out very well. Now it's Anthropic, Scale, robotics start-ups, etc.

Start-ups are inherently risky, though even ones with strong backers that fail are usually good launching pads for people.



I don't think you understand the concept of risk. Sure, if you're willing to risk no payout in exchange for a very rare and enormous payout, do it if it makes sense to you. High risk/high reward is the opposite of the average.


It's one thing to join Google when it's just Sergei and Larry operating in the garage...it's quite a different animal to join Google after receiving funding from Kleiner and Sequoia. People who joined after the VC round still made a ton from the options, but were paid competitive salaries as well.

I don't know what "no payout" means.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:17     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:Business is booming in federal law enforcement, even in non immigration related fields. My husband got an offer for a promotion from another agency in less than a month recently.


Yes all the people with a morals have left.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:15     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


I joined a start up with a 50 percent pay cut. I got a lot of RSUs and left after two years and had a lot of great experience. In end not public yet But my stock is worth the difference. would have stayed longer but need more base. But if Single I would have stayed. It was cool, hip, learning like crazy and would have stayed four years to fully vest.


If that's true I'm really happy for you. Your experience is rare unfortunately.


What's rare? Clearly, all the people that took a chance on Google, Meta, Amazon and hundreds of other companies that were acquired or also went public made out very well. Now it's Anthropic, Scale, robotics start-ups, etc.

Start-ups are inherently risky, though even ones with strong backers that fail are usually good launching pads for people.



I don't think you understand the concept of risk. Sure, if you're willing to risk no payout in exchange for a very rare and enormous payout, do it if it makes sense to you. High risk/high reward is the opposite of the average.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:11     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


I joined a start up with a 50 percent pay cut. I got a lot of RSUs and left after two years and had a lot of great experience. In end not public yet But my stock is worth the difference. would have stayed longer but need more base. But if Single I would have stayed. It was cool, hip, learning like crazy and would have stayed four years to fully vest.


If that's true I'm really happy for you. Your experience is rare unfortunately.


What's rare? Clearly, all the people that took a chance on Google, Meta, Amazon and hundreds of other companies that were acquired or also went public made out very well. Now it's Anthropic, Scale, robotics start-ups, etc.

Start-ups are inherently risky, though even ones with strong backers that fail are usually good launching pads for people.

Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:06     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


Well..actually getting hit up by Meta for a crazy amount of $$$s and decided to go through the process. Already at a high profile AI company.


That's not a bull market, your kid is just exceptional.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:05     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


I joined a start up with a 50 percent pay cut. I got a lot of RSUs and left after two years and had a lot of great experience. In end not public yet But my stock is worth the difference. would have stayed longer but need more base. But if Single I would have stayed. It was cool, hip, learning like crazy and would have stayed four years to fully vest.


If that's true I'm really happy for you. Your experience is rare unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 11:04     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


Well..actually getting hit up by Meta for a crazy amount of $$$s and decided to go through the process. Already at a high profile AI company.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:55     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


I joined a start up with a 50 percent pay cut. I got a lot of RSUs and left after two years and had a lot of great experience. In end not public yet But my stock is worth the difference. would have stayed longer but need more base. But if Single I would have stayed. It was cool, hip, learning like crazy and would have stayed four years to fully vest.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:46     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.


Exactly
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:42     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



Yeah getting hit up on linkedin bots to join a startup for a 20% reduction in pay isn't exactly poaching. Actually, if you think of yourself as poachable you're already doing the economy wrong, as if you're owned by somebody.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:26     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:+10000

This economy SUCKS. Prices everywhere keep going up and up or have remained elevated. Insurance rates for everything up and up and up. Taxes up and up and up. Paychecks? Lolololol. No raises whatsoever. Trying to find a new and higher paying job? Abysmal. The entire process is broken. It sucks living in America. It's squeezing from all sides with no relief in sight.


There's tons of opportunities just not in DC. Grifters are having it rough and their biggest strength is whining so it sucks as background noise but at least they are too lazy to riot.


Go back to your napping pod.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:24     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.



If only everyone could be a ML engineer in their, what, 20s?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:21     Subject: The job market sucks…

Anonymous wrote:Business is booming in federal law enforcement, even in non immigration related fields. My husband got an offer for a promotion from another agency in less than a month recently.


Doesn't the 2026 appropriations cut the FBI and ATF budgets pretty badly (especially ATF)?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2025 10:16     Subject: The job market sucks…

There is always a bull market somewhere. My kid is an ML engineer and constantly trying to get poached.