Anonymous wrote:I don't know about "deserve", but I think finding a fulfilling life partnership has a lot to do with luck and patience. I met my DH in grad school. We were friendly acquaintances for years before we started dating, and we became serious quickly. Still, though, I didn't rush into things. I wanted to be "sure" about our relationship...even though my mom and sister were pressuring me that I was getting older and he wouldn't wait forever.
I was lucky to meet DH at all. But I take some credit both for giving myself space to be "sure" and also for giving our relationship space to grow without the pressure of marriage/forever.
I think in OP's case, maybe you lacked confidence to believe that the "right" person would love you back. All I can tell you is that DH is very different, and much kinder, than anyone else I ever dated. You only have to find one person.
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I'm phrasing this in a way that matches my thoughts so bear with me. I'm a very average person in a not-too-happy marriage. When I was still single and dating, I connected with a lot of people but the people who I found interesting, funny, supportive or attractive were people who were less interested in me. I was pretty rational about dating after that and one could argue that I settled after grad school and/or that I was realistic about how assortative mating works.
But a few threads today have me thinking: are soulmates something that exist for everyone, or only the very best people? And I don't mean the most attractive or smart, but the kindest or most hard-working or from good and caring families or whatever? Everyone who I know who talks about having a soulmate seems really privileged even before they found their soulmate- they were beautiful, or athletic, or wealthy, or came from a great neighborhood or family, or all of the above. And their soulmate matched their best attributes 1 for 1.
I'm a very flawed person. I'm nice but socially awkward, I'm healthy but don't have a remarkable body, and I have a plain face. I'm generous and careful with my friendships and relationships but not bubbly or fun so my circle has always been smaller. But even when I met similarly flawed people they seemed to date even more flawed people than me, so I wonder if they perceived themselves to be on the wrong side of assortative mating with me?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have been observing the dating habits of my undergrad and grad students for over twenty years and there’s this expression “there is a lid for every pot.” I have had some students that seem bizarre and eccentric and quirky and they will turn up and tell everyone about their engagement and they have truly found someone who gets them. It’s not about being the prettiest or making the most money. I do think everyone deserves to find someone who gets them and for the most part that person is out there.
Bizarre and eccentric does not prevent finding love at all. Narcissism, for example, does.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a juvenile concept. Souls don’t even exist. It’s a longing to heal all your wounds from being raised in a family where you were fully seen and fulfilled. You’ll need to unpack that and move on from this silly fairytale idea.
Attachments do exist. Strong, exhilarating love exists even in the elderly proved by MRIs. Their brains light up differently when they see their beloved.
Where did PP say attachments don’t exist?? It’s silly to think you have a soul that was given to you at birth or wandering around until it inhabited your body and it is somehow “meant to be” with another one of these souls.
You’re being too literal.
Anonymous wrote:No. Not everyone will find their soul mate. Many will settle; some stay single until they die.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I spent a few years working in a developing country where a significant portion of the population lives in grinding poverty, and even in the middle and upper classes, most people are paired up in marriages arranged by their families, often between cousins. It's an honor-shame culture in which divorce is often not permitted by families of the woman even in cases of domestic violence, and women are honor-killed with some regularity. Domestic violence is common and seemed to be accepted by many people. I had a colleague who was educated in the West and successful in her career, but married to a man who, every few months or so, would beat her violently. She stayed with him and while she would complain about his abuse, between batterings she spoke of him and their family as if it were normal. We had one deep conversation once where I asked her, after a beating, why she didn't just leave, and she said that when he first started beating her early in their marriage, she had asked her parents to go home and they said that if she did, they and she would be socially shunned, so no. I pointed out that she could get a job overseas, and she said that she didn't want to separate her young son from his father because the son loved his dad so much (even though the dad beat the mom regularly). This was really how she thought. And I think many people in the world are in that situation. Marriage and love are viewed very differently in many parts of the world.
And I thought a lot about how we view love and marriage in the West. I concluded that "soulmates" are a luxury most people in the world don't even consider.
In our culture, we just have choices and the advantages of choice and education and options, but in the end, many of the love and soulmates fall apart after children.
I think that really meeting a soulmate is super rare. We in the West are all trying to find one, but most of us don't, even if we thought we did at some point.
If beautiful and highly successful people were more likely to find soulmates, I don't think we would see so many divorces in celebrity/politician/pro athlete circles?
So maybe we all have the potential to find a soulmate, but most of us just...don't.
Abusive people don’t find soulmates. Understanding people do. Beautiful and highly successful people are not more likely to find soulmates. They are not more likely to be understanding or abusive than anyone else.
PP, what country were you in? One country famous for abusive arranged marriages is also famous for its entrainment industry: Bollywood, with all of its love stories.
Finding love is just as worthy as earning wealth. It’s not limited to the rich. The poor find love too. Holy air ball money and beauty as the reasons why are off the mark.
Anonymous wrote:I have been observing the dating habits of my undergrad and grad students for over twenty years and there’s this expression “there is a lid for every pot.” I have had some students that seem bizarre and eccentric and quirky and they will turn up and tell everyone about their engagement and they have truly found someone who gets them. It’s not about being the prettiest or making the most money. I do think everyone deserves to find someone who gets them and for the most part that person is out there.