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Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.

No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.

They are large state schools with 30% acceptance rate in-state. They don’t compare at all to these 4k-6k test required schools with 4% acceptance rates and undergrad focus. Not knocking that they are good public universities, but they don’t come close to the Ivy experience.

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The Ivies are so great that to prove any school outside the 8 Ivies is great, they borrow the brand. Slap “Ivy” on anything and it will sell.

And if the Ivy is Cornell, not only does it sell, it sells at a huge discount!

You sound desperate and jealous OP. The vast majority of students will not be accepted to Ivies, MIT or Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…

Most kids that have been admitted to both will choose to attend harvard. Maybe different this year because of the political situation but too early to say stanford has overtaken harvard. MIT has a better claim to having overtaken harvard.

The choice is made between Harvard and Stanford at the SCEA round (and Stanford wins). Parchment data is a lag and represents less informed applicants who don’t finalize choices in December.

MIT will never overtake Harvard because it is a tech school. Stanford has everything. Great humanities.

Stanford has already overtaken Harvard. It will be more obvious in 10 years. But when it is obvious, 10 years from now, you will realize, in retrospect, that it happened 15-20 years before.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.

Exactly, mine hates CA and has no interest in west coast, so choice was made in not applying. Who knows how it would have played out, don’t care. Strange thread, gotten really off track when OP was asking about why people use term broadly.

Well, since Stanford has 1/2 the admissions rate, you can take a pretty good guess.

Why the hostility? It’s better for all that everyone doesn’t like all the top schools, shotgunning doesn’t help anyone. I’m also okay knowing they never would have gotten in according to you, didn’t want to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Just say your kid goes to Brown.

Nobody picks Darmouth over MIT or Stanford.

If you chose Brown over MIT , at best you are a midwit. Know thyself.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.

Exactly, mine hates CA and has no interest in west coast, so choice was made in not applying. Who knows how it would have played out, don’t care. Strange thread, gotten really off track when OP was asking about why people use term broadly.

Well, since Stanford has 1/2 the admissions rate, you can take a pretty good guess.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

These schools don’t have +80% yields for nothing. Anecdotes aside, it’s the 80% yield schools - HMS - and then everyone else.

Time to downgrade Yale and its 70% yield…

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.

Exactly, mine hates CA and has no interest in west coast, so choice was made in not applying. Who knows how it would have played out, don’t care. Strange thread, gotten really off track when OP was asking about why people use term broadly.

Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…

Most kids that have been admitted to both will choose to attend harvard. Maybe different this year because of the political situation but too early to say stanford has overtaken harvard. MIT has a better claim to having overtaken harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

Then they didn't actually have the choice.

Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Just say your kid goes to Brown.

Nobody picks Darmouth over MIT or Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

Pretty sure people are referring to their choice to apply or not? Obviously not a choice if didn’t apply.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.

Me too, mine didn’t even apply to those schoolls as had no interest.

While OP is ridiculous, your kid did not "choose" Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford because your kid was not accepted to one from each group, and therefore your kid wasn't making a choice. A choice would be the kid was offered admission to both and turned MIT or Stanford down for one of the other two.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.

No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.

They are large state schools with 30% acceptance rate in-state. They don’t compare at all to these 4k-6k test required schools with 4% acceptance rates and undergrad focus. Not knocking that they are good public universities, but they don’t come close to the Ivy experience.

+1

The Ivies are so great that to prove any school outside the 8 Ivies is great, they borrow the brand. Slap “Ivy” on anything and it will sell.

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Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes

One would hope that every college was filled with wannabes otherwise there would be no bes. If your DC is not a wannabe you messed up.

They are filled with kids who they were a first choice. They are filled with kids with the same perfect GPAs and test scores as HPYSM kids. They ate filled with kids that academically are identical—it comes down to student choice and fit. You are ridiculous. Your kid didn’t get into a T-10, let alone a T20.