Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You certainly can but for folks it depends on variables--what is college tuition projection, etc.
What is your income to amass 2 million and it must be liquid because you won't be able to access retirement accounts until 59 1/2 or sometimes 55.
You can access regular income from retirement accounts before 59.5. Checkout rule 72t.
Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster who is building generational wealth. My husband was a war refugee as a child. His family was well-off in their home country and started again from scratch in their host country. I know a lot about my family's boom and bust cycles of wealth going back hundreds of years.
So neither of us think in terms of what would make our kids "better people". They already are decent people. They are kind and help others and have a strong work ethic. They know they will have to work anyway, because that will give meaning to their lives, if not a career to fall back on if things don't go as planned.
I'm thinking more about future generations beyond that. I would like, if possible, to extend economic stability as far down my line as I can. Of course, we could all die tomorrow. Maybe my kids won't have kids. I don't control anything, really. But I need to take care of my family first.
Which doesn't exclude regular donations to causes we cherish, of course. My favorite is Doctors Without Border - they work in war zones that no one else wants to work in. They're instrumental in Sudan and Gaza and other terrible places of this world. And they're going to pick up some of the slack after USAID.
Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we walking about the fact that 5million is more like 17K a month? Even after taxes, it would be more like 12-13K.
Anonymous wrote:I did, but I became a SAHM so I don’t look “retired.” I still work some and will work more when kids are older, but it’s because I want to and it’s all projects/jobs that are fun for me. I also have a several major hobbies/pursuits that are unpaid.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our goal is to build generational wealth. We want to leave as much of the capital to our kids as possible, not spend it down.
In order to live on the dividends only, the capital needs to be a lot more than 5M.
Choice of stocks depends on whether you favor a growth portfolio, where dividends will be very small compared to stock price, or whether you wish to max out dividends immediately, in which case you pick stocks with low potential for growth but high returns.
I’m sure I agree with leaving most of your capital with kids. We should have a a sizeable estate by the time we are in our 50s. We plan to only leave about 25% to our heirs. They’ve had plenty of opportunities to earn their own keep and we feel it will make them better human beings.
Good for you. Others disagree.
NP here. Noticed most first gen immigrants prefer to leave 100% to kids, zero to others. You must be one of them. Sad
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our goal is to build generational wealth. We want to leave as much of the capital to our kids as possible, not spend it down.
In order to live on the dividends only, the capital needs to be a lot more than 5M.
Choice of stocks depends on whether you favor a growth portfolio, where dividends will be very small compared to stock price, or whether you wish to max out dividends immediately, in which case you pick stocks with low potential for growth but high returns.
I’m sure I agree with leaving most of your capital with kids. We should have a a sizeable estate by the time we are in our 50s. We plan to only leave about 25% to our heirs. They’ve had plenty of opportunities to earn their own keep and we feel it will make them better human beings.
Anonymous wrote:Simple: Because for some people work isn’t work..
When you’re 30 and at the beginning of your career it’s stressful and time consuming and you’re probably counting down the days you no longer have to work. if you have the luck to grow so much in your career, by the time you could retire you may not really want or need to.
I’m now in a position where I make a LOT to pretty much do nothing but use my brainAt my level I get lots of job satisfaction by mentoring and giving back the next generation. People in my field/conpany respect and look up to me, reach out to network, and want my advice. I speak at conferences. I have the ability to refer someone for a job or give someone a leg up. I get lots of perks from my job which enhance my personal life (eating out at the nicest restaurants, Uber black, first class flights, free computer and phone, subscriptions, etc). I have a admin assistant and career coach. Work life balance is great! My status gives me lots of once-in-a-lifetime bucket list experiences. Earlier this year I shared a stage and had private lunch with an A-list celebrity who works with my company and I have box seats at the US Open in 2 months.
I see this perspective from others I know who may not even have such extreme circumstances. Usually the type of person who has the drive to earn and save multi-millions has the intrinsic need to continue achieving. Think of top athletes, politicians, and business moguls. The way I see it - I’ve worked really hard for a lot less and had to juggle life on top of it. With all the sacrifices and effort I put in over the last 25 years to get here, why would I stop “working” now. Retiring at this point would be boring and feel more like giving up and leaving a lot on the table. I grew up with a kit less, so I do think the generational wealth I’m creating is a key driver for me, but aside from more money I’m a lot healthier mentally and physically and emotionally as well. I may step back in 10 years for some unforeseen reason, but until then I’m going to keep logging in.
Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we walking about the fact that 5million is more like 17K a month? Even after taxes, it would be more like 12-13K or even more depending on how the money is structured.
Anonymous wrote:Why aren't we walking about the fact that 5million is more like 17K a month? Even after taxes, it would be more like 12-13K or even more depending on how the money is structured.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very simple reason. My spend is way higher than $10,000 a month. In retirement looking to match current spend. Around $30,000 to $35,000 a month. Need to hit $12 million or perhaps $15 million.
This. $10k a month is really not much. We have $9M in cash/investments and no where near retirement (young 50s). Sure we could retire but I’m not living frugally in retirement
You could travel the world full time on 9 mil and never run out of money. You would have to blow your money on dumb stuff like fancy cars or jewelry to run out of money.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very simple reason. My spend is way higher than $10,000 a month. In retirement looking to match current spend. Around $30,000 to $35,000 a month. Need to hit $12 million or perhaps $15 million.
This. $10k a month is really not much. We have $9M in cash/investments and no where near retirement (young 50s). Sure we could retire but I’m not living frugally in retirement
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our goal is to build generational wealth. We want to leave as much of the capital to our kids as possible, not spend it down.
In order to live on the dividends only, the capital needs to be a lot more than 5M.
Choice of stocks depends on whether you favor a growth portfolio, where dividends will be very small compared to stock price, or whether you wish to max out dividends immediately, in which case you pick stocks with low potential for growth but high returns.
I’m sure I agree with leaving most of your capital with kids. We should have a a sizeable estate by the time we are in our 50s. We plan to only leave about 25% to our heirs. They’ve had plenty of opportunities to earn their own keep and we feel it will make them better human beings.
Good for you. Others disagree.