Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:48
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats and ECs are good. But if you are looking to SCEA/ED to an Ivy, don't do HYP unless seriously hooked. Don't do Dartmouth unless you go to a feeder school. Don't do Penn if you are a rando from the mid-Atlantic, unless coming from a feeder school in PA or NYC.
So for Ivies, that leaves Columbia - which is certainly a choice today. And Brown and Cornell, which are the only two schools you should consider for an early app to an Ivy from an unhooked student with the stats.
The great thing about America is that there are a lot other schools outside the Ivies that are great. And where an ED app might be helpful.
Are there any feeder schools (public or private) for Dartmouth in the DMV? I don't hear about many kids going there.
I looked into Dartmouth admissions bc I thought it'd be a great fit for one of my kids. But it's a completely useless school for unhooked high stats kids. They seem to take a lot of students from NYC privates and New England boarding schools. The rest of the class is athletes, URM, and FGLI. That's it. There is zero space for anyone else. Pointless app if you're not in one of those boxes. Didn't bother applying. And there is no school in the DMV that sends a significant amount of students to Dartmouth.
St. Albans send 2-3/year out of 70. 13 over the past 5 years per their website: https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans
That's as much of a feeder as you get.
Sure, but I'm certain that includes Jake Tapper's family and the offspring of other famous DC alumni. Dartmouth really isn't a school for unhooked smart kids. And definitely not a place where anyone unhooked should direct an ED app, which was the original question. Go for it in RD. I think having a decent meal is a more sensible use of $85, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. Dartmouth is happy to take your app fee.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:27
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Go for it! Does your kid have genuine relationships with the teachers who are writing their LORs?
Do you think these teacher would be willing to go all-out with “best student of my career” or “exceptional leader in the classroom” WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES?
That could be meaningful, especially given the challenges of being one of many applicants from a large DMV public school.
Do you think these teacher would be willing to go all-out with “best student of my career” or “exceptional leader in the classroom” WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES?
That could be meaningful, especially given the challenges of being one of many applicants from a large DMV public school.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:27
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Not as rare as 1600 SAT. Most concordances treat 1570+ as equivalent to 36.Anonymous wrote:Is 36 ACT rare? DCUM always says once you cross a threshold, the score doesn’t matter. 36 seems to be the only thing here that distinguishes OP from many many public school high GPA kids.
If mine has the following stats, what chances for ivies?
If change the stats to:
4.0 UW/ 4.8 W
33 ACT
Student Gov leadership
Paper editor
Part-time job for 3 years
Two internships
“Pointy” interest
A few clubs, no awards besides volunteer hours award.
33 ACT is a good score, crosses the threshold. Shouldn't it be enough?
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:21
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats and ECs are good. But if you are looking to SCEA/ED to an Ivy, don't do HYP unless seriously hooked. Don't do Dartmouth unless you go to a feeder school. Don't do Penn if you are a rando from the mid-Atlantic, unless coming from a feeder school in PA or NYC.
So for Ivies, that leaves Columbia - which is certainly a choice today. And Brown and Cornell, which are the only two schools you should consider for an early app to an Ivy from an unhooked student with the stats.
The great thing about America is that there are a lot other schools outside the Ivies that are great. And where an ED app might be helpful.
Are there any feeder schools (public or private) for Dartmouth in the DMV? I don't hear about many kids going there.
I looked into Dartmouth admissions bc I thought it'd be a great fit for one of my kids. But it's a completely useless school for unhooked high stats kids. They seem to take a lot of students from NYC privates and New England boarding schools. The rest of the class is athletes, URM, and FGLI. That's it. There is zero space for anyone else. Pointless app if you're not in one of those boxes. Didn't bother applying. And there is no school in the DMV that sends a significant amount of students to Dartmouth.
St. Albans send 2-3/year out of 70. 13 over the past 5 years per their website: https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans
That's as much of a feeder as you get.
The rich get richer.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 15:21
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:How many other kids from same HS have similar stats? If there are others and they also apply to the same Ivies then be ready for heartbreak. It is rare, rare, rare for an Ivy to accept multiple applicants from the same high school.
If you’re "heartbroken" about not getting accepted to an Ivy you have no business applying.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 14:24
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats and ECs are good. But if you are looking to SCEA/ED to an Ivy, don't do HYP unless seriously hooked. Don't do Dartmouth unless you go to a feeder school. Don't do Penn if you are a rando from the mid-Atlantic, unless coming from a feeder school in PA or NYC.
So for Ivies, that leaves Columbia - which is certainly a choice today. And Brown and Cornell, which are the only two schools you should consider for an early app to an Ivy from an unhooked student with the stats.
The great thing about America is that there are a lot other schools outside the Ivies that are great. And where an ED app might be helpful.
Are there any feeder schools (public or private) for Dartmouth in the DMV? I don't hear about many kids going there.
I looked into Dartmouth admissions bc I thought it'd be a great fit for one of my kids. But it's a completely useless school for unhooked high stats kids. They seem to take a lot of students from NYC privates and New England boarding schools. The rest of the class is athletes, URM, and FGLI. That's it. There is zero space for anyone else. Pointless app if you're not in one of those boxes. Didn't bother applying. And there is no school in the DMV that sends a significant amount of students to Dartmouth.
St. Albans send 2-3/year out of 70. 13 over the past 5 years per their website: https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/meet-st-albans
That's as much of a feeder as you get.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 14:12
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:** 36 ACT
36 AP was better
Anonymous
07/04/2025 14:11
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Maybe the better question is does your child actually want to go to a particular Ivy because it's their top choice or simply will any Ivy will do for the perceived prestige, car sticker and golden ticket?
Anonymous
07/04/2025 13:56
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The stats and ECs are good. But if you are looking to SCEA/ED to an Ivy, don't do HYP unless seriously hooked. Don't do Dartmouth unless you go to a feeder school. Don't do Penn if you are a rando from the mid-Atlantic, unless coming from a feeder school in PA or NYC.
So for Ivies, that leaves Columbia - which is certainly a choice today. And Brown and Cornell, which are the only two schools you should consider for an early app to an Ivy from an unhooked student with the stats.
The great thing about America is that there are a lot other schools outside the Ivies that are great. And where an ED app might be helpful.
Are there any feeder schools (public or private) for Dartmouth in the DMV? I don't hear about many kids going there.
I looked into Dartmouth admissions bc I thought it'd be a great fit for one of my kids. But it's a completely useless school for unhooked high stats kids. They seem to take a lot of students from NYC privates and New England boarding schools. The rest of the class is athletes, URM, and FGLI. That's it. There is zero space for anyone else. Pointless app if you're not in one of those boxes. Didn't bother applying. And there is no school in the DMV that sends a significant amount of students to Dartmouth.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 13:17
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What kind of high school
Full pay or need aid
Any hooks?
Public high school DMV
Full pay
No hooks I know of
Much harder coming from a large public HS.
+100
Anonymous
07/04/2025 11:36
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Not as rare as 1600 SAT. Most concordances treat 1570+ as equivalent to 36.Anonymous wrote:Is 36 ACT rare? DCUM always says once you cross a threshold, the score doesn’t matter. 36 seems to be the only thing here that distinguishes OP from many many public school high GPA kids.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 11:27
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Is 36 ACT rare? DCUM always says once you cross a threshold, the score doesn’t matter. 36 seems to be the only thing here that distinguishes OP from many many public school high GPA kids.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 11:17
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:How many other kids from same HS have similar stats? If there are others and they also apply to the same Ivies then be ready for heartbreak. It is rare, rare, rare for an Ivy to accept multiple applicants from the same high school.
Or just shrug and move on. It doesn't have to be that deep. Get a grip.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 11:16
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
How many other kids from same HS have similar stats? If there are others and they also apply to the same Ivies then be ready for heartbreak. It is rare, rare, rare for an Ivy to accept multiple applicants from the same high school.
Anonymous
07/04/2025 10:23
Subject: Stats for Ivy?
Anonymous wrote:The stats and ECs are good. But if you are looking to SCEA/ED to an Ivy, don't do HYP unless seriously hooked. Don't do Dartmouth unless you go to a feeder school. Don't do Penn if you are a rando from the mid-Atlantic, unless coming from a feeder school in PA or NYC.
So for Ivies, that leaves Columbia - which is certainly a choice today. And Brown and Cornell, which are the only two schools you should consider for an early app to an Ivy from an unhooked student with the stats.
The great thing about America is that there are a lot other schools outside the Ivies that are great. And where an ED app might be helpful.
Are there any feeder schools (public or private) for Dartmouth in the DMV? I don't hear about many kids going there.