Anonymous wrote:full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not the best liberal arts college in the country: Amherst College. I'm not even sure CMC has a philosophy program-definitely not at the level of Amherst-where students get into top grad schools every year

Best laugh of the day. Thanks, PP.

In the world of philosophy, Amherst’s name is worth gold. I don’t think grad schools even know what “Pamona” or Claremont men’s college are. Great maybe if you want to teach at cal poly or something.

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Anonymous wrote:full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

The order in which you listed the student’s qualifications is very telling. Full pay first? I always laugh at that because you seem to be suggesting that because you’re rich you’re getting an edge. These schools all have huge endowments and are need blind. No one cares about your ability to pay. It is such a sense of entitlement to suggest otherwise. You can’t buy everything.

OP said full pay to limit the conversation to admissions strategy and not financial strategy of doing ED.

Uh huh, sure. Followed by “feeder private school” as number 2. Then she started talking about the actual kid.

Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

The order in which you listed the student’s qualifications is very telling. Full pay first? I always laugh at that because you seem to be suggesting that because you’re rich you’re getting an edge. These schools all have huge endowments and are need blind. No one cares about your ability to pay. It is such a sense of entitlement to suggest otherwise. You can’t buy everything.

OP said full pay to limit the conversation to admissions strategy and not financial strategy of doing ED.

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Anonymous wrote:full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

The order in which you listed the student’s qualifications is very telling. Full pay first? I always laugh at that because you seem to be suggesting that because you’re rich you’re getting an edge. These schools all have huge endowments and are need blind. No one cares about your ability to pay. It is such a sense of entitlement to suggest otherwise. You can’t buy everything.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

Sounds like OP’s kid is (wisely) seeking to ED1 to a school that he likes, not just looking for a prestigious school he can get into. If the kid has visited and liked SLACs, then he’s correct in focusing his ED1 choices on those schools.

No. OP said he has not visited. Right now he just has some vague ideas about a bunch of prestigious schools. He needs to have some contrast in getting perspective about slacs. OP is asking for ED choices. Some PPs correctly pointed out Wasb do not have ED advantages.

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Anonymous wrote:For a lightly subscribed major such as philosophy, you may want to consider the size of the philosophy communities at potential choices. As a rough indicator for this, these are the numbers of graduating first majors in philosophy in a recent year (e.g., https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Claremont+McKenna&s=all&id=112260#programs) for the schools you have named along with two others that have been suggested:

Hamilton: 11
Wesleyan: 10
Amherst: 8
Middlebury: 8
Pomona: 7
CMC: 6
Williams: 4
Bowdoin: 3

To add, here's the size of each college
Hamilton: 2053 (0.5%)
Wesleyan: 3000 (0.33%)
Amherst:1914 (0.4%)
Middlebury: 2800 (0.29%)
Pomona: 1732 (0.4%)
CMC: 1381 (0.4%)
Williams: 2101 (0.19%)
Bowdoin: 2044 (0.15%)

With these percentages, the order then appears like this:

Hamilton
CMC
Amherst
Pomona
Wesleyan
Middlebury
Williams
Bowdoin

Anonymous wrote:full pay
feeder private hs
3.8 most rigorous
male
humanities (philosophy) with EC/research to back up
1520
school leadership
unhooked

trying to narrow down ed1 .. like all right now.
williams, bowdoin, pomona, cmc.

feel good about Midd or Wes for ED2.

our naviance isn't very helpful because we have a lot of very hooked kids.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

For what reason? If the boy enjoys liberal arts colleges, no necessity to go to a research university, especially in a field like Philosophy. No one suggests LACs when people's lists are entirely Research universities.

OP said DC hasn't done campus visit yet, it's all very premature.
As long as it a good fit, I don't think one should care it's a lac or a research university.
Quite honest, I don't get it when folks say it's hard for one to love both Penn and Williams.

Anonymous wrote:There are different philosophies and some might say you would be “wasting” your ED on those schools since it’s still unlikely to get in (not because he’s not qualified or wouldn’t do well there, it’s just that many qualified students who would do well at those schools are rejected.)

I left it up to my kid and he used ED for someplace that it gave a boost-he liked the school and he was thrilled to be one and done. He’s not the type to wonder about or pine for what-ifs though and if your kid is like that (or doesn’t like someplace he’s likely to have a better chance of with ED) then go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid got into all of those schools RD, which would he pick?

at the moment, he doesnt have a front runner. he'll spend a lot more time this summer doing research. we've visited each.

Broaden up the scope in your campus visit to include at least a couple of national universities. Johns Hopkins for one, which has some significant ED1/ED2 advantage. Our schools sent a few ED there every year. Northwestern also has a top philosophy department, ED advantage is real there.

Sounds like OP’s kid is (wisely) seeking to ED1 to a school that he likes, not just looking for a prestigious school he can get into. If the kid has visited and liked SLACs, then he’s correct in focusing his ED1 choices on those schools.

No. OP said he has not visited. Right now he just has some vague ideas about a bunch of prestigious schools. He needs to have some contrast in getting perspective about slacs. OP is asking for ED choices. Some PPs correctly pointed out Wasb do not have ED advantages.