Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except that with these “untraditional” engineering programs (OP’s characterization) he will substantially limit his opportunities, especially with the very odd program at BC. It really is unclear how these two schools were paired up. If the kid wants engineering, and has the stats for it, but wants less of a grind…then schools offering real engineering options with less intensity should be considered.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
+1
Wake and BC sound like perfect fits for what your kid seems to want. Might want to consider Pitt and Syracuse, too.
Also know that plenty of undergrad engineering majors end up choosing other careers, including consulting and even law.
Encourage your kid to apply to schools where he’ll thrive in all areas of his life. If he’s comfortable and with his people, he’ll be more likely to put himself out there academically - regularly attend office hours, apply for research positions, network with alums etc.
From there, he’ll find his path, which may or may not be similar to kids who went to more “hard core” engineering schools. But if he’s authentic and true to himself (and willing to work hard as well as play hard), he’ll be more than fine!! GL.
Yes. Do you have any suggestions??
Thank you for this comment. Perhaps I should have said “…paired up, given that BC is a Catholic Jesuit school and given the different climates.”Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Except that with these “untraditional” engineering programs (OP’s characterization) he will substantially limit his opportunities, especially with the very odd program at BC. It really is unclear how these two schools were paired up. If the kid wants engineering, and has the stats for it, but wants less of a grind…then schools offering real engineering options with less intensity should be considered.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
+1
Wake and BC sound like perfect fits for what your kid seems to want. Might want to consider Pitt and Syracuse, too.
Also know that plenty of undergrad engineering majors end up choosing other careers, including consulting and even law.
Encourage your kid to apply to schools where he’ll thrive in all areas of his life. If he’s comfortable and with his people, he’ll be more likely to put himself out there academically - regularly attend office hours, apply for research positions, network with alums etc.
From there, he’ll find his path, which may or may not be similar to kids who went to more “hard core” engineering schools. But if he’s authentic and true to himself (and willing to work hard as well as play hard), he’ll be more than fine!! GL.
I can’t speak to the engineering programs, but our DC is considering both schools for a different major.
These two schools are similar in size, are similarly ranked, and they tend to accept students with similar stats/profiles, according to our school’s Naviance.
Both schools have very pretty enclosed campuses with fairly conventional, preppy, and social students.
Both have ACC sports, and though neither are powerhouses, both have strong school spirit.
Anonymous wrote:Except that with these “untraditional” engineering programs (OP’s characterization) he will substantially limit his opportunities, especially with the very odd program at BC. It really is unclear how these two schools were paired up. If the kid wants engineering, and has the stats for it, but wants less of a grind…then schools offering real engineering options with less intensity should be considered.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
+1
Wake and BC sound like perfect fits for what your kid seems to want. Might want to consider Pitt and Syracuse, too.
Also know that plenty of undergrad engineering majors end up choosing other careers, including consulting and even law.
Encourage your kid to apply to schools where he’ll thrive in all areas of his life. If he’s comfortable and with his people, he’ll be more likely to put himself out there academically - regularly attend office hours, apply for research positions, network with alums etc.
From there, he’ll find his path, which may or may not be similar to kids who went to more “hard core” engineering schools. But if he’s authentic and true to himself (and willing to work hard as well as play hard), he’ll be more than fine!! GL.
Anonymous wrote:Except that with these “untraditional” engineering programs (OP’s characterization) he will substantially limit his opportunities, especially with the very odd program at BC. It really is unclear how these two schools were paired up. If the kid wants engineering, and has the stats for it, but wants less of a grind…then schools offering real engineering options with less intensity should be considered.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
+1
Wake and BC sound like perfect fits for what your kid seems to want. Might want to consider Pitt and Syracuse, too.
Also know that plenty of undergrad engineering majors end up choosing other careers, including consulting and even law.
Encourage your kid to apply to schools where he’ll thrive in all areas of his life. If he’s comfortable and with his people, he’ll be more likely to put himself out there academically - regularly attend office hours, apply for research positions, network with alums etc.
From there, he’ll find his path, which may or may not be similar to kids who went to more “hard core” engineering schools. But if he’s authentic and true to himself (and willing to work hard as well as play hard), he’ll be more than fine!! GL.
Except that with these “untraditional” engineering programs (OP’s characterization) he will substantially limit his opportunities, especially with the very odd program at BC. It really is unclear how these two schools were paired up. If the kid wants engineering, and has the stats for it, but wants less of a grind…then schools offering real engineering options with less intensity should be considered.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
+1
Wake and BC sound like perfect fits for what your kid seems to want. Might want to consider Pitt and Syracuse, too.
Also know that plenty of undergrad engineering majors end up choosing other careers, including consulting and even law.
Encourage your kid to apply to schools where he’ll thrive in all areas of his life. If he’s comfortable and with his people, he’ll be more likely to put himself out there academically - regularly attend office hours, apply for research positions, network with alums etc.
From there, he’ll find his path, which may or may not be similar to kids who went to more “hard core” engineering schools. But if he’s authentic and true to himself (and willing to work hard as well as play hard), he’ll be more than fine!! GL.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
yes it does!
The Wake engineering student we know loves it there. They wanted to have that mid-size 5k- 9k school that is known for hard work yet not the intensity of Duke or ivies. They did not get into the latter but they realized that was for the best in the end. Undergrads get a lot of attention from faculty in a school where there are only a couple hundred engineers per year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:BC’s offering is Human Centered Engineering, which is offered by Arts and Sciences. It’s certainly not a general engineering program. And it’s not human factors. Wake offers a general engineering degree (similar to JMU). Probably most similar to Mechanical.
I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Maybe Tennessee? ODU? For really small schools, check out Elizabethtown in PA.
These recommendations are a tad random and aren't remotely similar to OP's current schools of interest. Silly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd suggest keeping those schools on your list since your child isn't set on engineering yet. However, as others have mentioned, they may not be the strongest options if your child does decide to pursue engineering professionally. ABET accreditation is essential for engineering programs, and I suspect schools like Wake or BC may have limited engineering recruiting compared to more established programs.
It sounds like your child might prefer athletic, mid-sized Division I schools. In that case, you might want to consider avoiding highly specialized engineering schools, as they tend to have more intense academic cultures that may not align with your child's social preferences.
I think that Lehigh has been mentioned as a good option, and I'd also suggest adding Syracuse University to your list. Both offer solid engineering programs while maintaining the campus culture you're looking for.
While your kid may prefer to avoid large public universities, it's worth noting that these institutions typically offer the strongest engineering programs and have the most extensive industry connections. They might be worth considering despite the size factor.
Wake has ABET accreditation.
Anonymous wrote:It seems that the OP is mainly interested in less intense engineering programs. I got this from, idk, actually reading what the OP has said. Silly, I know.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:BC’s offering is Human Centered Engineering, which is offered by Arts and Sciences. It’s certainly not a general engineering program. And it’s not human factors. Wake offers a general engineering degree (similar to JMU). Probably most similar to Mechanical.
I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Maybe Tennessee? ODU? For really small schools, check out Elizabethtown in PA.
These recommendations are a tad random and aren't remotely similar to OP's current schools of interest. Silly.
The suggestions I provided are a large public flagship, a medium public, and a small private. These all would provide a less intense program and might be right for a “relaxed teen who also wants to have fun, play sports, watch sports, etc. in college”.
Which is another way of addressing the OPs concern. “Less intense engineering” is not oxymoronic and not all programs are like MIT and these are examples.
Maybe you should read more carefully and think a little bit before replying, nitwit.
It seems that the OP is mainly interested in less intense engineering programs. I got this from, idk, actually reading what the OP has said. Silly, I know.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:BC’s offering is Human Centered Engineering, which is offered by Arts and Sciences. It’s certainly not a general engineering program. And it’s not human factors. Wake offers a general engineering degree (similar to JMU). Probably most similar to Mechanical.
I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Maybe Tennessee? ODU? For really small schools, check out Elizabethtown in PA.
These recommendations are a tad random and aren't remotely similar to OP's current schools of interest. Silly.
Anonymous wrote:BC’s offering is Human Centered Engineering, which is offered by Arts and Sciences. It’s certainly not a general engineering program. And it’s not human factors. Wake offers a general engineering degree (similar to JMU). Probably most similar to Mechanical.
I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Maybe Tennessee? ODU? For really small schools, check out Elizabethtown in PA.