Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 14:35     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:With the US making erratic and dumb decisions consistently, I wouldn't be surprised if China steps in and makes a deal. With Russia, with Iran/Israel, with India/Pakistan. China is just way better at realpolitik than Trump's America is. Their global soft power is better than ours also. They do business, they build infrastructure. The US beats its chest and embarrasses itself. China is already more favorable among the Global South as it is, and that's even after the Covid virus lab disaster. Imagine leaking a virus and causing a deadly global pandemic and STILL winning the PR game.

America, you had a good run.


Maybe, but China has its own massive problems. Xi succession could be brutal, corruption remains rampant, and the central government still has difficulty implementing its policies nationally.

After Xi, could easily degenerate into a kleptocratic state of grifters and corrupt officials.

The mountains are high and the emperor is far away.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 14:26     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:No, China has huge demographic problems. They’re not taking over anything…maybe geriatric care.


Yes. China's population is in rapid decline. Demographically, they have an inverted pyramid - a gazillion old people and relatively few young people. No doubt they have been paying attention to Russia's war on Ukraine. Russia too has terrible demographics, though not as bad as China's. And Russia recently passed the million casualties mark. That includes roughly 250,000 dead and another 250,000 with crippling injuries. That's 500,000 men who won't be breeding. Even if Russia wins in Ukraine, they are f*&ked as a nation long term with these kinds of losses.

The Chinese leadership aren't idiots. They are mostly interested in wealth and global respect, and they lose both if they chose a devastating war with Taiwan. Plus, pre-1948 China has a long history of warlords and instability. The greatest threat to the Chinese leadership is an internal coup. It would be profoundly irrational for Xi to invade Taiwan, given the potential blowback and the precariousness of Chinese demographics. From peak population to 2050, China's population will have declined by 50 percent. And that's without war. They are not in a position to be idiots.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 14:11     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:This was set in stone when we sent our entire manufacturing base and IP over there because companies didn’t want to pay American workers.


30 cents an hour, child labor was too much for greedy billionaires to resist
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 14:03     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
No, China has huge demographic problems. They’re not taking over anything…maybe geriatric care.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 13:14     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Hospital or a lecture…
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 10:16     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:This was set in stone when we sent our entire manufacturing base and IP over there because companies didn’t want to pay American workers.


^^^
This!!!

And both Dems and Republicans are to blame.

Remember the supply chain issues during covid? We painted ourselves into a corner and made us weak when we became reliant on other countries.

Moreover, China has been aggressively buying up land, ports, etc. in the Caribbean, South America, and Africa. Every time I visit the Caribbean I hear locals complaining about the Chinese expanding their footprint—wondering aloud why the US isn’t taking action.

With the decimation of USAID, China has literally been invited to step up and overshadow the US. I can’t tell if this was intentional by the Trump administration or if they are just clueless.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 09:58     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Israel is already making the transition to the Chinese.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 09:50     Subject: Re:Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:A world with China as the dominant power will look very different from what we know. This is not just swapping out one hegemon with another. China is fundamentally different from the western countries that have traded hegemon status for the past few centuries.

China is inherently an inward focused country and culture. It does not have the cultural compulsion to go and help other people, at least not at the scale that western countries have. The helping others/strangers mentally is routed in Christianity, and it has spurred a lot of good and bad (good to want to help, but caused a lot of expansion/wars in name of morality and evangelization). China does not have any of that compulsion or baggage. Flip side is China does not necessarily believe all men are created equal before God, and certainly does not believe all cultures and nations are equal. China will never allow foreigners to immigrant there the way western countries have. They won't be influenced by other cultures the way western countries have. Those who are not Chinese will always not be Chinese and be seen as an afterthought.

I can't say how it all nets out but it will look very different (if it happens).

Chinese men are going to have to import women to marry. There is a huge gender gap.

https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/gender-diversity/article/3282574/chinas-35-million-leftover-men-spark-foreign-brides-idea-tackle-gender-imbalance
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 08:18     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
It's the AI century.

Anonymous
Post 06/20/2025 08:13     Subject: Re:Get ready for the Chinese Century
A world with China as the dominant power will look very different from what we know. This is not just swapping out one hegemon with another. China is fundamentally different from the western countries that have traded hegemon status for the past few centuries.

China is inherently an inward focused country and culture. It does not have the cultural compulsion to go and help other people, at least not at the scale that western countries have. The helping others/strangers mentally is routed in Christianity, and it has spurred a lot of good and bad (good to want to help, but caused a lot of expansion/wars in name of morality and evangelization). China does not have any of that compulsion or baggage. Flip side is China does not necessarily believe all men are created equal before God, and certainly does not believe all cultures and nations are equal. China will never allow foreigners to immigrant there the way western countries have. They won't be influenced by other cultures the way western countries have. Those who are not Chinese will always not be Chinese and be seen as an afterthought.

I can't say how it all nets out but it will look very different (if it happens).
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2025 22:17     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:China is not the horrible enemy of human existence. Culturally it's a difference in traditions and systems. The US was never ever 100% awesome. It's def less so now with Trump of course but if anything, he made clear the probs of Dem even though it's a beautiful political system. Trump was elected by a majority of Americans who largely still support him. Our country has public schools that don't teach much, a healthcare system that is for profit which many cannot use, infrastructure that's broken which aren't funded because of either lack of budgeting or bureaucracy and overall, just a lot of debauchery and selfishness of being lazy, easy, greedy. I really do not think that we were ever all that. China has a lot to learn about human rights but the value of freedom only inspires and is noble if you have the discipline and wisdom of using it correctly. Pretty sure the US has been failing for a number of years in this front as Trump successfully got elected not overnight and not just once!


China has a lot to learn about human rights, about worker protections, fraud, consumer protection, intellectual property, environmental protection, and how to run an economy without it being a command economy.


WTAF—have you not been paying attention to the last 5 months?????


We are (and already were) definitely an empire in decline, but we’ve decided to speed run it by electing Donnie.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2025 21:52     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I agree that China will be at the top tier of global power for the foreseeable future, I don't think they will overtake the US.

They have major demographic challenges due to the One Child rule that will slow down their economic growth and make wars more costly. And their diplomatic rhetoric and style can be surprisingly haughty and off-putting. Their State Department was originally the "Department of Barbarian Affairs."


The US Department of Defense was originally the War Department.


The Bureau of Indian Affairs is still called the Bureau of Indian Affairs and was originally part of the War Department.



The Department of Barbarian Affairs was the name of China’s state department, reflecting their point of view that they were the Middle Kingdom and everyone else was a barbarian.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 17:01     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Trump's tariffs have China on very weak footing.

New York Times reports Europe is upset with the prospect of having cheap goods dumped in their countries. Apparently, these should only be dumped on America.

Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 17:00     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
China is making a killing by funding energy projects that the Left won't allow to be funded by Western banks, because global warming.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2025 16:31     Subject: Get ready for the Chinese Century
Anonymous wrote:While I agree that China will be at the top tier of global power for the foreseeable future, I don't think they will overtake the US.

They have major demographic challenges due to the One Child rule that will slow down their economic growth and make wars more costly. And their diplomatic rhetoric and style can be surprisingly haughty and off-putting. Their State Department was originally the "Department of Barbarian Affairs."


The US Department of Defense was originally the War Department.


The Bureau of Indian Affairs is still called the Bureau of Indian Affairs and was originally part of the War Department.