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Anonymous wrote:“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."
She's now preparing to say goodbye to her daughter. Newkirk said the hospital will take Smith off of life support Tuesday.
"It's kind of hard, you know," she said tearfully. "It's hard to process."
She wishes she had more time“”

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/adriana-smith-baby-born-life-support-update-brain-dead-nicu/85-1fb6595c-3966-4a50-993d-0e36e05cb256

I feel so sorry for this poor woman. If she had been cared for correctly and received better medical care, she could be here with her children.

It’s amazing the Chance is going to be ok!

You cannot honestly believe that a one-pound baby is okay.

AMERICA'S TINIEST PREEMIE
Treatment developed at Iowa helps save extremely premature baby
https://medicineiowa.org/fall-2024/americas-tiniest-preemie

Eight-and-a-half ounces.

That’s roughly the weight of two sticks of butter, a roll of quarters, or a smartphone.

It’s also how much Evelyn Eilers weighed when she was born 17 weeks early at University of Iowa Health Care in September 2023, making her the smallest surviving infant in the U.S., and one of three tied for third-smallest in the world, according to the Tiniest Babies Registry.

Evelyn weighed 240 grams, or 8.46 ounces, at birth. When she went home at 7 months old, she weighed 7 pounds 8 ounces—the size of an average full-term newborn.




Grandma said they named the baby Chance because he has a second Chance at life. Very sweet.

Yeah, super sweet that her daughter was kept as a human incubator against her family's wishes to give birth to a NICU baby and they'll be saddled with hundreds of thousands of medical bills.

Chance lived and is healthy so far according to his grandmother.

Dcum angry Chance lived, how disgusting.

Yes, keeping a legally dead body “alive” to gestate a non-viable fetus is repulsive.

You know what is really repulsive?

A black female rn experiencing health issues and presenting to two ERs, her justified medical conditions being ignored/undertreated, her suffering brain death because of medical negligence, 2 children losing their mom, a family losing their daughter/sister/loved one, a woman losing her life, and dcum talking about how pro-life people are like handmaid’s tale and pretending they know how disabled an innocent baby who lost his mom is and how he should have died too!!

I hope for the grandmother's sake that this baby is okay but no one will know fully the harm caused by not allowing this child to die with their mother as would naturally have happened if the state had not intervened.

All the heart warming stories will not make up for the fact that people are not meant to be born at 1 lb.

Women have been giving birth for millenia and if the child is this small, they die. If the mother dies, the child dies

What is disturbing to all you MAGA that you can't see whst a perversion has happened hear against the family's wishes though of course they will try their best with the hand thst is forced upon them now.

Anonymous wrote:I hope the baby grows up healthy without significant disabilities and enriches the lives of his family.

But … I remain disgusted at the “pro life” fetishization of the fetus. This whole saga was an intensely expensive, distressing and painful intervention that produced a micropreemie that will need yet more painful and expensive intervention, with a very high chance of a child with severe disability … and then the mother’s body is thrown away once it is no longer needed. All because the very natural course of events was not allowed to take place and the family was not given a choice. I believe the willingness of the mother is as the heart of the mortality and good of childbirth and childrearing - and this event made a complete mockery out it it. It is truly repellent. Her body was literally dead.

Yet the pro lifers will wax on ecstatically about “life” and “babies” and “wombs” with complete lack of acknowledgement about the immense pain and burden and unhappiness caused.

When you listen to these pro lifers you can hear that they literally worship the “womb” and the “baby” and refuse to acknowledge any legitimacy of the costs and pains of childbirth let alone the damages suffered by unwanted children. It’s all a fairy tale to them. It’s deeply, deeply negating towards any value of the woman’s life.

I am disgusted that dcum can’t show any love or respect for a baby born and his life. He’s a human being

Pretending that you know how “disabled” a newborn baby is, and how his life is worthless and he would be better off dead is abhorrent.

Mom was a nurse at Emory; she had health insurance. She was insured for her hospital stay and treatment.

Chance was a wanted baby.

Why don’t you ghouls stop basing your worldview of such situations off of a tv show based on a book of fiction? Are you that out of touch with the reality of life, or so politically motivated that even a newborn baby is seen a disposable?

The problem is that this woman, a RN, had the misfortune of being black, and her medical care was substandard. She should be alive and pregnant and happy.

The family should sue the medical centers that didn’t take care of her and Chance correctly and get a trust set up for Chance and his older sibling, so their needs are met. The doctors that didn’t medically help this woman are liable for her death and liable as they deprived two young children of their mom.

I don’t see anyone talking about “who is going pay for” the older sibling? That child lost their mom too. That child needs to be taken care of financially.

The mom’s body wasn’t “thrown away.” She was taken off life support by her family- who loved her.

The entire dcum narrative is that mom didn’t want her baby to be born, the family wanted the woman to be taken off life support, and the baby is severely disabled.

None of that incredibly gross narrative is true. If you look back at the thread created before Chance was born, posters were insisting Chance was “blind” and unable to walk, had epilepsy, etc. Nobody knew his medical status, but posters were invested in lying about an unborn baby.

What would motivate a stranger to lie about an unborn baby?

Why aren’t you all talking about how mom presented at least twice to ERs and was not taken seriously? The medical staff that didn’t give her proper care are the people who threw this poor woman away.

A tragedy occurs and what does dcum focus on? Lying about a baby.

Dcum is ignoring the poor/nonexistent medical care a pregnant black woman received that resulted in her death to complain that her baby was born and the grandmother says he is doing good and asks for prayers.

I hope the baby grows up healthy without significant disabilities and enriches the lives of his family.

But … I remain disgusted at the “pro life” fetishization of the fetus. This whole saga was an intensely expensive, distressing and painful intervention that produced a micropreemie that will need yet more painful and expensive intervention, with a very high chance of a child with severe disability … and then the mother’s body is thrown away once it is no longer needed. All because the very natural course of events was not allowed to take place and the family was not given a choice. I believe the willingness of the mother is as the heart of the mortality and good of childbirth and childrearing - and this event made a complete mockery out it it. It is truly repellent. Her body was literally dead.

Yet the pro lifers will wax on ecstatically about “life” and “babies” and “wombs” with complete lack of acknowledgement about the immense pain and burden and unhappiness caused.

When you listen to these pro lifers you can hear that they literally worship the “womb” and the “baby” and refuse to acknowledge any legitimacy of the costs and pains of childbirth let alone the damages suffered by unwanted children. It’s all a fairy tale to them. It’s deeply, deeply negating towards any value of the woman’s life.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Micropreemie is the term doctors use for babies either born before the 26th week of pregnancy or weighing less than 1.75 pounds (28 ounces) at birth. Because they're so tiny and weigh so little, micropreemies are at greater risk than even a preemie baby for health issues and disabilities as they grow older. Still, hospitals are doing amazing things to take care of micropreemies – even those born super early – and making sure they have the best odds of overcoming their challenges.

Even micropreemies have a fighting chance, though, thanks to technology and medical advances. In a study of roughly 11,000 extremely premature babies, those born at 22 weeks had a 28 percent survival rate, while those born at 23 weeks had a 55 percent survival rate. But the even better news in the study came when researchers looked at these babies at 2 years old. About half of these micropreemies (born between 22 and 26 weeks) had no or mild disabilities and another 29 percent had moderate ones. Only 21 percent of preemies had severe disabilities like cerebral palsy, blindness, or neurological delays.

https://www.babycenter.com/baby/premature-babies/whats-the-outlook-for-a-premature-baby-born-at-28-31-33-or-3_10300031

Medically reviewed by Liz Donner, M.D., pediatric hospitalist

What are those stats for micropremies gestated in corpses?

So more than half of micropremies have a lifelong disability and 20% have severe issues that will require lifelong expensive medical care. That is not reassuring.

Any update on this situation?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."
She's now preparing to say goodbye to her daughter. Newkirk said the hospital will take Smith off of life support Tuesday.
"It's kind of hard, you know," she said tearfully. "It's hard to process."
She wishes she had more time“”

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/adriana-smith-baby-born-life-support-update-brain-dead-nicu/85-1fb6595c-3966-4a50-993d-0e36e05cb256

I feel so sorry for this poor woman. If she had been cared for correctly and received better medical care, she could be here with her children.

It’s amazing the Chance is going to be ok!

You cannot honestly believe that a one-pound baby is okay.

The lowest birth weight baby to survive is believed to be a girl born in Germany in 2016. She weighed just 230 grams (8.1 ounces) at birth.

Other notable cases include:
A boy born in Japan in 2019 who weighed 268 grams (9.45 ounces).

A girl born in the United States in 2018 who weighed 245 grams (8.6 ounces).

A boy born in Singapore in 2020 who weighed 230 grams (8.1 ounces).

Just because a severely underweight baby somewhere in the world has survived once does not mean that this baby has a good prognosis. Over 50% of babies born at 31 weeks have a lifelong disability, and this babies mother was dead for months, so who knows what the long-term health consequences will be.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the family are going to go bankrupt with enormous medical bills.

Show us where the hospital is going to bill an adult woman’s mother for her medical care?

Dcum is genuinely bitter this baby was born. Incredible.

You think the hospital is going to waive fees because it's the right thing to do? When would it possibly be the wrong thing to do?! And yet, it never happens; Americans go medically bankrupt all the time.

Nobody is bitter a baby was born. People are pointing out that the mother being kept alive merely as an incubator has ethical repercussions and a cost. Are you going to pay for that, party of jerks who want to refuse to pay for other classes of people to simply exist? If you're willing to pay to keep a brain-dead person alive, why not a fat person? a queer person? a poor person? This particular poor, motherless baby, who will likely need extensive medical care (and then, of course, an education, affordable housing, etc.)?

Nobody's bitter about the baby. At all. A lot of people are pointing out the logic gaps in the arguments your side is making.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the family are going to go bankrupt with enormous medical bills.

Show us where the hospital is going to bill an adult woman’s mother for her medical care?

Dcum is genuinely bitter this baby was born. Incredible.

The baby’s father will be billed for the baby’s medical care

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So now the family are going to go bankrupt with enormous medical bills.

Show us where the hospital is going to bill an adult woman’s mother for her medical care?

Dcum is genuinely bitter this baby was born. Incredible.

They’re going to bill the estate. They will take every bit of our life savings. You think the hospital is just gonna let them not pay the bill?

Also, who do you think is going to feed house and raise this child? The state?

Anonymous wrote:So now the family are going to go bankrupt with enormous medical bills.

Show us where the hospital is going to bill an adult woman’s mother for her medical care?

Dcum is genuinely bitter this baby was born. Incredible.

Prayful, not playful. ^

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."
She's now preparing to say goodbye to her daughter. Newkirk said the hospital will take Smith off of life support Tuesday.
"It's kind of hard, you know," she said tearfully. "It's hard to process."
She wishes she had more time“”

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/adriana-smith-baby-born-life-support-update-brain-dead-nicu/85-1fb6595c-3966-4a50-993d-0e36e05cb256

I feel so sorry for this poor woman. If she had been cared for correctly and received better medical care, she could be here with her children.

It’s amazing the Chance is going to be ok!

You cannot honestly believe that a one-pound baby is okay.

“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."”

Grandma is quoted as saying that her grandson is expected to be ok.

I don’t have medical records or any personal medical information for baby Chance.

Are you very rudely and very unkindly calling a grieving grandmother a liar?

Not a liar, just playful and hopeful. She wouldn’t be good grandma if she wasn’t. But I imagine that child will remain in the NUCU for a long time trying to survive all kinds of medical issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."
She's now preparing to say goodbye to her daughter. Newkirk said the hospital will take Smith off of life support Tuesday.
"It's kind of hard, you know," she said tearfully. "It's hard to process."
She wishes she had more time“”

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/adriana-smith-baby-born-life-support-update-brain-dead-nicu/85-1fb6595c-3966-4a50-993d-0e36e05cb256

I feel so sorry for this poor woman. If she had been cared for correctly and received better medical care, she could be here with her children.

It’s amazing the Chance is going to be ok!

You cannot honestly believe that a one-pound baby is okay.

The lowest birth weight baby to survive is believed to be a girl born in Germany in 2016. She weighed just 230 grams (8.1 ounces) at birth.

Other notable cases include:
A boy born in Japan in 2019 who weighed 268 grams (9.45 ounces).

A girl born in the United States in 2018 who weighed 245 grams (8.6 ounces).

A boy born in Singapore in 2020 who weighed 230 grams (8.1 ounces).

Survival is different from okay. I bet there are all kinds of neurological problems.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“"He's expected to be OK," Newkirk said. "He's just fighting. We just want prayers for him. Just keep praying for him. He's here now."
She's now preparing to say goodbye to her daughter. Newkirk said the hospital will take Smith off of life support Tuesday.
"It's kind of hard, you know," she said tearfully. "It's hard to process."
She wishes she had more time“”

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/adriana-smith-baby-born-life-support-update-brain-dead-nicu/85-1fb6595c-3966-4a50-993d-0e36e05cb256

I feel so sorry for this poor woman. If she had been cared for correctly and received better medical care, she could be here with her children.

It’s amazing the Chance is going to be ok!

You cannot honestly believe that a one-pound baby is okay.

AMERICA'S TINIEST PREEMIE
Treatment developed at Iowa helps save extremely premature baby
https://medicineiowa.org/fall-2024/americas-tiniest-preemie

Eight-and-a-half ounces.

That’s roughly the weight of two sticks of butter, a roll of quarters, or a smartphone.

It’s also how much Evelyn Eilers weighed when she was born 17 weeks early at University of Iowa Health Care in September 2023, making her the smallest surviving infant in the U.S., and one of three tied for third-smallest in the world, according to the Tiniest Babies Registry.

Evelyn weighed 240 grams, or 8.46 ounces, at birth. When she went home at 7 months old, she weighed 7 pounds 8 ounces—the size of an average full-term newborn.




Grandma said they named the baby Chance because he has a second Chance at life. Very sweet.

Yeah, super sweet that her daughter was kept as a human incubator against her family's wishes to give birth to a NICU baby and they'll be saddled with hundreds of thousands of medical bills.

Chance lived and is healthy so far according to his grandmother.

Dcum angry Chance lived, how disgusting.

Yes, keeping a legally dead body “alive” to gestate a non-viable fetus is repulsive.