Nope.
I’d pay them.

Anonymous wrote:I would write the truth: “my son received two violations in a short time frame and we are asking if it is possible to reduce the fine by half. He is apologetic and generally a very responsible driver.”

You may get it reduced. I’ve had mine waived twice, once I put that I was designated driving a group of people (which was true) and once I put that I was on my way to give birth (also true). I think I included proof for the second one.

It probably doesn’t work every time but it doesn’t hurt to try

+1. Let him try to appeal and see what happens.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

Montgomery County is covered with speed cameras! My new car tells me about them and there are areas where it never shuts up.

Oh yeah I know those. Also, if everyone around you is inexplicably creeping along, just creep too and don't be impatient - they know where the speed cameras are.

Or, here’s a radical thought, don’t speed.

Well, TBF, the speed on CT ave goes so low and is so inexplicable that it's just ripe for a trap.

I thought there was going to be an argument that he couldn't have been in both locations in that time frame, but that's not the issue. Do the right thing and have your son pay for the tickets. He needs to face the consequences so he will change his behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

The thing is, this "strictness," has nothing to do with safetly but on generating revenue--and not so much for the city to pass on services to the residents, but more so for Bowser's cronies. It's a massive grift. Set limits low so you can fine more.

One person in this thread already said that she drives more safely in both DC and MD after getting a series of tickets in DC

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We received 2 letters in the mail today.

Both were for speeding tickets on the same day, but only 3 minutes apart. Each ticket was for $100, for a total of $200.

Both were for going 11-15 MPH over the speed limit late in the evening. (Going 36 MPH in a 25 MPH zone.)

(These were from my college-age son. He is a good driver and a responsible person.)

I'll ask him to pay. But does it seem aggressive of DC to issue 2 fines within 3 minutes of each other?

Two things:
1) Evening is a particularly terrible time to speed
2) Your son is not a good driver, nor is he a responsible person. You cannot be responsible if you are not aware of other people, cars, etc. Please teach him that being responsible includes being aware that there are other people (such as pedestrians and bikers) around when he drives and that he needs to be aware of the speed limit, his surroundings, crosswalks, etc. He may think that it is safe to drive 36 in a 25 but it isn't.

I live near 16th street, where the speed limit was recently reduced to 25MPH - which seems to not have remotely stopped people from going well above that, not stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks, running red lights etc. Just because the road gives you the ability to go 36 does not make it safe.

if you think it is a glitch challenge it,if not dont waste your time

Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

The thing is, this "strictness," has nothing to do with safetly but on generating revenue--and not so much for the city to pass on services to the residents, but more so for Bowser's cronies. It's a massive grift. Set limits low so you can fine more.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you all for the input. It's a life lesson for him.

(I've received speeding tickets in DC too, and I consider myself a very responsible and safe driver. The tunnel on K Street has gotten me a few times, even though I thought I was driving at a very safe speed.)

The K Street tunnel is my nemesis. It’s gotten me at least 4 times.

No. It's the DC government. Pay them, now, or they are likely to double or slap on additional fines.

so if you shoot two people three minutes apart you should only get charged for one shooting.

Go to court and asked for a deal.

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Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

Montgomery County is covered with speed cameras! My new car tells me about them and there are areas where it never shuts up.

Oh yeah I know those. Also, if everyone around you is inexplicably creeping along, just creep too and don't be impatient - they know where the speed cameras are.

Or, here’s a radical thought, don’t speed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

Montgomery County is covered with speed cameras! My new car tells me about them and there are areas where it never shuts up.

Oh yeah I know those. Also, if everyone around you is inexplicably creeping along, just creep too and don't be impatient - they know where the speed cameras are.

Anonymous wrote:It took several DC tickets to get it into our family's thick heads that DC is strict with speed limits, stop signs, red lights, etc. As they should be! We'd gotten sloppy, living in Montgomery County, where speeding, or squeaking by on a very red orange light is all in a day's work. Now I realize that I'm a better driver in MD, just because I've learned to be careful in DC. All good!

Instead of contesting these, I'd try to emulate careful DC driving everywhere you drive, and try to persuade your son of the same.

Montgomery County is covered with speed cameras! My new car tells me about them and there are areas where it never shuts up.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like your son is a dog shıt driver and I hope he slows down before he kills someone. Just like all those troubled youth of dc who’s grandma insists “oh he’s such a good kid, he’d never shoot anyone”.

3 minutes apart at 35 miles an hour is like 1.5-1.75 miles apart if he maintained a consistent speed. If he didn’t maintain a consistent speed he had ample opportunity to obey the speed limit.

I hope he doesn’t get an exception. Teaches him and you the wrong life lessons.

Thanks! This is what I was looking for. If it was logical that he hit two in a row while whipping through lights or if it's just one that is malfunctioning/duplicating.

Yes, he was speeding and got caught by two separate cameras. The location of the camera is on the ticket. You can see what he did.

Have him pay the tickets and any increase in your insurance that may result and tell him to stop speeding.

This. Montgomery County not DC, but one example of this that a lot of people would be familiar with is Connecticut Avenue between Chevy Chase Circle and Bradley. There are two separate speed cameras less than a mile apart.