Anonymous
06/19/2025 16:03
Subject: Travel is overated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An overpriced game at 3pm on a Monday in the first round in a stadium hours away is a hard sell.
If I was a lifelong fan I could see going no matter whay, if it was in my town that would help, and if it was affordable for my large family that would really help.
Is 4thousand $ an overpriced tag to play in mls next 2 that’s really a glorified ncsl? Weighing my child’s options
MLS Next2 are MLS Next second teams like ECNL used to be before ECNL forced the clubs to drop ECNL as 2nd team
So that means according to you, ECNL is also glorified ncsl
Da saint James and revolutions aren’t mls next. They play in ncsl and edp. Are you one of those who make a living by lies and deceit?
Anonymous
06/19/2025 12:58
Subject: Travel is overated
Anonymous wrote:MLS Next B teams are the same as ECNL-RL. Talent is similar, pricing should be similar.
Then why were they ECNL teams till ECNL said they don't want to be B teams on clubs with MLS Next?
Anonymous
06/19/2025 12:16
Subject: Travel is overated
MLS Next B teams are the same as ECNL-RL. Talent is similar, pricing should be similar.
Anonymous
06/19/2025 12:07
Subject: Travel is overated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An overpriced game at 3pm on a Monday in the first round in a stadium hours away is a hard sell.
If I was a lifelong fan I could see going no matter whay, if it was in my town that would help, and if it was affordable for my large family that would really help.
Is 4thousand $ an overpriced tag to play in mls next 2 that’s really a glorified ncsl? Weighing my child’s options
MLS Next2 are MLS Next second teams like ECNL used to be before ECNL forced the clubs to drop ECNL as 2nd team
So that means according to you, ECNL is also glorified ncsl
Anonymous
06/18/2025 22:35
Subject: Travel is overated
Anonymous wrote:An overpriced game at 3pm on a Monday in the first round in a stadium hours away is a hard sell.
If I was a lifelong fan I could see going no matter whay, if it was in my town that would help, and if it was affordable for my large family that would really help.
Is 4thousand $ an overpriced tag to play in mls next 2 that’s really a glorified ncsl? Weighing my child’s options
Anonymous
06/17/2025 10:43
Subject: Travel is overated
An overpriced game at 3pm on a Monday in the first round in a stadium hours away is a hard sell.
If I was a lifelong fan I could see going no matter whay, if it was in my town that would help, and if it was affordable for my large family that would really help.
If I was a lifelong fan I could see going no matter whay, if it was in my town that would help, and if it was affordable for my large family that would really help.
Anonymous
06/17/2025 10:35
Subject: Travel is overated
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We don’t play travel hoping to play in college. We play for the organized practices 3-4 days a week for 10 months a year. The friendships, the tournament fun, and hopefully the professional coaching vs a parent. The many (so many more than rec) games and scrimmages they always look forward to year round. Personally I don’t understand the 8 week rec soccer idea with a random parent coach and teammates. If you get lucky with a coach or team that’s great. But still it’s only for a few weeks a year. [/quote]
Those are fair points to bring up. Still unnecessarily expensive. [b]We’re from England, where kids start “travel style” programs recreationally at a young age for literally a few dollars equivalent a month. anyone could play them.[/b] Looking at the players England and other countries produce then compare them to the USMNT..something’s unfortunately broken here.
Definitely think it’s not beneficial having a random parent coach. They just pick their kid and their friends to play and put their least productive players in goal or on the bench. [/quote]
These programs are run by massive, rich soccer clubs (or in some cases, by smaller, but still minor-league-baseball-level rich, lower-division clubs). It's a very easy investment for them, because it takes care of player recruiting and training and also builds on existing fan loyalties. The same thing in most other countries where soccer is the main professional sport -- academies run by professional clubs instead of small local travel clubs here.
I agree that model is better, but I don't think most Major League Soccer teams have the same level of resources (and that's leaving girls' soccer out entirely). [/quote]
We're never going to be Europe with their Academy structure, soccer just isn't as important to casual fans. Teams in the Club World Cup are already complaining about the attendance in some of the stadiums, if we truly were a soccer nation the stadiums would be packed but they're not, we need to quit comparing ourselves to other countries. Arsenal vs LAFC had 22k in a stadium that holds 71k, meanwhile the Chicago Bears average 58k (NFL worst) in a 66k capacity stadium[/quote]
Fair, but the club world cup is a horrible example to use. It's a **** tournament and the host nations that have no soccer history/culture always have crappy crowds.
Those are fair points to bring up. Still unnecessarily expensive. [b]We’re from England, where kids start “travel style” programs recreationally at a young age for literally a few dollars equivalent a month. anyone could play them.[/b] Looking at the players England and other countries produce then compare them to the USMNT..something’s unfortunately broken here.
Definitely think it’s not beneficial having a random parent coach. They just pick their kid and their friends to play and put their least productive players in goal or on the bench. [/quote]
These programs are run by massive, rich soccer clubs (or in some cases, by smaller, but still minor-league-baseball-level rich, lower-division clubs). It's a very easy investment for them, because it takes care of player recruiting and training and also builds on existing fan loyalties. The same thing in most other countries where soccer is the main professional sport -- academies run by professional clubs instead of small local travel clubs here.
I agree that model is better, but I don't think most Major League Soccer teams have the same level of resources (and that's leaving girls' soccer out entirely). [/quote]
We're never going to be Europe with their Academy structure, soccer just isn't as important to casual fans. Teams in the Club World Cup are already complaining about the attendance in some of the stadiums, if we truly were a soccer nation the stadiums would be packed but they're not, we need to quit comparing ourselves to other countries. Arsenal vs LAFC had 22k in a stadium that holds 71k, meanwhile the Chicago Bears average 58k (NFL worst) in a 66k capacity stadium[/quote]
Fair, but the club world cup is a horrible example to use. It's a **** tournament and the host nations that have no soccer history/culture always have crappy crowds.