Anonymous wrote:Never saw 30 Rock, Mean Girls was good, I barely remember Date Night or Sisters, kind of plays herself in Only Murders, up and down on SNL (like everyone), UKS I liked.

When I hear Tina Fey I think Baby Mama, If that's on TV I'm probably watching it again.

Anonymous wrote:Four Seasons was such a bust. I can’t wait for her next amazing project. She can be hilarious!

Anonymous wrote:30 Rock is absolutely my favorite show of all time, and I think Tina Fey is brilliant on it.

Everything else she is just awful. She is a great writer/show producer/creator - I love Girls 5 Eva, Kimmy Schmidt - but her guest spots on those shows are not great.

Worst on the list is Haunting in Venice - she drags down that movie so badly. An absolutely insane casting decision.

Anonymous wrote:I like Tina Fey, I enjoy mean humor, and I identify very much with Liz Lemon (well, her work self, anyway) as a successful “normal one” in a creative field, but I think it was the writers’ room that made 30 Rock, not just Tina herself.

Anonymous wrote:I liked Great News

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Anonymous wrote:I read this once about Tina Fey's comedy and now I can't unsee it - there's an undercurrent of meaness to it.

I loved 30 Rock, so maybe the writer's room helped create a great product.

On the other hand, as a genX myself, maybe now we worry too much about being nice. Maybe everything doesn't always work out. Maybe the world can be m ean. I grew up with movies like pretty in Pink and 16 candles and characters were perhaps more realistic (sort of). There was and is bullying. People are mean.

There’s an episode of 30 Rock where she goes back to her high school reunion and everyone she thought was really mean was actually nice and she was the mean one. There’s some good self-awareness there.

I think it’s complicated for women (or maybe men, too) who felt like outsiders in adolescence/teen years. You develop defense mechanisms that can be as off-putting as the behavior that made them feel necessary in the first place.

Right. And do we criticize male comedians for being mean?

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of these shows were hits "in their time" and don't really land the same now. I loved Parks and Rec, The Office, and Arrested Development when they aired but find them mostly unwatchable now except for clip reels.
Other writers/actors changed their tone - Steve Carell's work is very different now from the Office years - but I don't think Tina Fey figured out how to shift, or else maybe she's happy with her her new tone but it's less funny.

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Anonymous wrote:I read this once about Tina Fey's comedy and now I can't unsee it - there's an undercurrent of meaness to it.

I loved 30 Rock, so maybe the writer's room helped create a great product.

On the other hand, as a genX myself, maybe now we worry too much about being nice. Maybe everything doesn't always work out. Maybe the world can be m ean. I grew up with movies like pretty in Pink and 16 candles and characters were perhaps more realistic (sort of). There was and is bullying. People are mean.

There’s an episode of 30 Rock where she goes back to her high school reunion and everyone she thought was really mean was actually nice and she was the mean one. There’s some good self-awareness there.

I think it’s complicated for women (or maybe men, too) who felt like outsiders in adolescence/teen years. You develop defense mechanisms that can be as off-putting as the behavior that made them feel necessary in the first place.

Anonymous wrote:I think her comedy is very Gen X dated.

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Anonymous wrote:30 Rock is absolutely my favorite show of all time, and I think Tina Fey is brilliant on it.

Everything else she is just awful. She is a great writer/show producer/creator - I love Girls 5 Eva, Kimmy Schmidt - but her guest spots on those shows are not great.

Worst on the list is Haunting in Venice - she drags down that movie so badly. An absolutely insane casting decision.

Agree 30 rock is incredible and overall she is not a great actress. But I also question why 30 Rock was so great but much of her other writing has been average imo. I thought Kimmy Schmidt was very very average. Jane K was her old character from 30 Rock, although not nearly as funny. And the rest of the cast were decent but forgettable. I’ve tried to watch it twice now and stopped each time after a few episodes.

I can’t think of another show that is as good as 30 Rock (in that genre at least). Arrested development I guess. Maybe The Office comes close. Or Better Call Saul although that is not exactly a comedy

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of these shows were hits "in their time" and don't really land the same now. I loved Parks and Rec, The Office, and Arrested Development when they aired but find them mostly unwatchable now except for clip reels.
Other writers/actors changed their tone - Steve Carell's work is very different now from the Office years - but I don't think Tina Fey figured out how to shift, or else maybe she's happy with her her new tone but it's less funny.

Anonymous wrote:People forget about additional writers on her projects.
I don’t know how many on any particular project, but 30 rock was certainty not just her. There was a team. Donald Glover was one until he left.