Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

In lieu of a counselor, use this for everything. Some of the above are just for essays.

https://www.lumisource.io/

Another good one

https://admityogi.com/

Omg some of those kids with the low scores and acceptances….. I just can’t

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How could you be sure that the data you uploaded to these AI tools are not "shared" by others. AI tools are learning from you too, and your idea (if any or no matter how tiny) will be learned by AI and will be provided to other users. I would stay away from it.

That's such an antiquated way of viewing the post-AI world. Everything is being shared.
Your kid's essays aren't (1) that special or usually even that distinguishable, and (2) likely used by ANY college counselor that you hire or essay editor.

If that's your stance, make sure you don't hire anyone for any part of this.

The reality is that the essays will become less important. It's more about your overall story. Themes that emerge that fit a specific school (not talking about classes or professors). How your application is boiled down to a sentence or two (Lee Coffin had a GREAT episode this spring where he talked just about this).
I do think the LOR has (already) become MUCH more important.

I kinda agree with you on this. Particularly in private schools it's about the whole package, less about each individual element. Counselors (and students as well) already have a clear idea what level of schools this kid is heading way before the application season. Who are the smart driven kids, and who are the layback chill ones, they don't fluctuate much. A 3.8 kid may drop to 3.7 but without force of God it's very rare to see they drop to 3.5. Same with test scores.

Of course there are still surprises for example an HYP kid may end up at Penn, a T30 kid may end up at Brown. I think that's where the fine details such as essays kick in. A mediocre essay will not hurt you much (HYP to Penn), a great essay may help some (T30 to Brown). But if you are not obsessed with ranking, yeah it's all about the whole package.

Public school may be different.

Anonymous wrote:I don't use AI at all in my daily life. We're on the cusp on an energy and water crisis in Virginia because of AI.

It's a choice.

Together with crypto currency it will be the final nail in the coffin for the environment we once knew. We're trading it for AI and bitcoin. not even electric cars can save us at this point.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

I can smell gpt essays a mile away. Heck, I can smell gpt posts on DCUM a mile away.
College essays need to be authentic. There is nothing authentic in the gpt essays.

I would agree with you if there were one or two essays. There are now so many essays required, and some of htem have really stupid prompts, that I'm sure that most of what kids write sounds like gpt even if it isn't. If you are applying to 20 colleges, and each one asks you to write the "why us" essay .... is there anyway that it won't sound like chatgpt or a madlibs?. Unless you have some truly unique circumstances -- my ill mother is in cancer treatment there and so this will allow me to stay with her; my grandfather worked as a groundskeeper there and it was always his dream that one of his children or grandchildren could attend as students; etc. I'm sure most of those answers are written by ChatGPT, because honestly what do they expect with that kind of question? The true answer is pretty much always "It seems like a good school that I could maybe get admitted to, based on what the scattergrams and your admissions stats suggest, and also like the people there won't be too snotty and the social stuff looks fun."

Everyone knows the essays are 100% fake. That’s why video tools like Glimpse are taking off.

Anonymous wrote:How could you be sure that the data you uploaded to these AI tools are not "shared" by others. AI tools are learning from you too, and your idea (if any or no matter how tiny) will be learned by AI and will be provided to other users. I would stay away from it.

That's such an antiquated way of viewing the post-AI world. Everything is being shared.
Your kid's essays aren't (1) that special or usually even that distinguishable, and (2) likely used by ANY college counselor that you hire or essay editor.

If that's your stance, make sure you don't hire anyone for any part of this.

The reality is that the essays will become less important. It's more about your overall story. Themes that emerge that fit a specific school (not talking about classes or professors). How your application is boiled down to a sentence or two (Lee Coffin had a GREAT episode this spring where he talked just about this).
I do think the LOR has (already) become MUCH more important.

How could you be sure that the data you uploaded to these AI tools are not "shared" by others. AI tools are learning from you too, and your idea (if any or no matter how tiny) will be learned by AI and will be provided to other users. I would stay away from it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

In lieu of a counselor, use this for everything. Some of the above are just for essays.

https://www.lumisource.io/

Another good one

https://admityogi.com/

owned by Crimson now.
https://edinamag.com/admityogi-turns-college-admissions-on-its-head/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

In lieu of a counselor, use this for everything. Some of the above are just for essays.

https://www.lumisource.io/

Another good one

https://admityogi.com/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

Had you really never heard of these? I've heard of all but textero.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

In lieu of a counselor, use this for everything. Some of the above are just for essays.

https://www.lumisource.io/

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Good lord.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Most of these have "portal access" for private college counselors/IECs....also some claim to abide by university's AI policies to help with "brainstorming" which is allowed.

I would be PISSED if I paid a private essay editor for editing review and they used this - they show you a demo of what the IEC would have to do.
https://athenaco.ai/iec

For essay editing, don't hire a college counselor - hire a professional writer/essay editor who has worked with a ton of students. There are lots of other posts here with names.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's always been the case that rich kids could buy "editors" to write their essays. It would be entertaining to have kids submit essays as part of a standardized testing...I predict that admissions would change quite a bit if admissions officers could see how kids actually write without "support."

Agree. We are long past the time the essays were remotely appropriate to be considered for admissions. The short-lived timed writing section of the SAT is a much fairer way to judge writing ability.

We all know that the intent of the essays aren't to judge writing ability. They are to provide additional insight for use in crafting a class (which fits institutional priorities) of 500-2000 from a pool of 12000-60000 kids where the majority are largely indistinguishable from each other along most vectors.

Or to put it another way. Essays provide the rationale which allows a school to pick and defend their preferences rather than your preferences.

Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Most of these have "portal access" for private college counselors/IECs....also some claim to abide by university's AI policies to help with "brainstorming" which is allowed.