Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Yes, it is difficult. But they already have so many people who met the direct admission requirements, there isn’t that much space left. Most of the students are direct admits. This is known going in.

I think the point is they have upped the requirements after the May 1 commitment date.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Yes, it is difficult. But they already have so many people who met the direct admission requirements, there isn’t that much space left. Most of the students are direct admits. This is known going in.

Really? Just curious. My DD is applying this year for Fall 2026 admission. I've always thought most kids get Standard Admit but I could be wrong.

Yes. Each class has about 2500 kids and they fill about 2000 of those through DA.

From Poets and Quants: “In a typical year, Kelley will enroll about 2,000 undergraduate students and then add another 500 to 600 through transfers during sophomore year.”

From Kelley’s website: “Our current incoming Direct Admit class includes 2,043 students.”

Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Yes, it is difficult. But they already have so many people who met the direct admission requirements, there isn’t that much space left. Most of the students are direct admits. This is known going in.

Really? Just curious. My DD is applying this year for Fall 2026 admission. I've always thought most kids get Standard Admit but I could be wrong.

Yes. Each class has about 2500 kids and they fill about 2000 of those through DA.

From Poets and Quants: “In a typical year, Kelley will enroll about 2,000 undergraduate students and then add another 500 to 600 through transfers during sophomore year.”

From Kelley’s website: “Our current incoming Direct Admit class includes 2,043 students.”

They need a way to lower their #s, there’s too much demand.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Yes, it is difficult. But they already have so many people who met the direct admission requirements, there isn’t that much space left. Most of the students are direct admits. This is known going in.

Really? Just curious. My DD is applying this year for Fall 2026 admission. I've always thought most kids get Standard Admit but I could be wrong.

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Yes, it is difficult. But they already have so many people who met the direct admission requirements, there isn’t that much space left. Most of the students are direct admits. This is known going in.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...

Your reading comprehension and math skills indicate that a 3.3 would have been a struggle for you. The requirement is all B+ or better. A 3.3 GPA that all B+ gets the job done but 3.8 GPA with a B does not. See the difference?

DP here. The difference is clear. Bottomline, Kelley wants to make sure the Standard Admit students have a strong foundation in all subject areas, not just a few.

I think that it's dirty business to update requirements after students have accepted. On the flip side, IU pretty much has open admissions, so they clearly need a way to maintain standards. Even direct admission isn't what I would consider overly onerous for the ranking of the business school.

But the students accepted to IU, not to Kelley itself. I agree that I would want it easier rather than harder, but no one is entitled to admission to a specific program (unless you already were directly admitted).

I’m sorry OP - this feels like a total bait and switch.

All these posters claiming it’s so easy to get a B+ in every Kelley pre-req class are not clued into the standards at Kelley. These are tough, weed out classes and you are required to get a B+ in every single one, not a B+ average…two very different things. Zero room for a bad professor, tough final etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...

Your reading comprehension and math skills indicate that a 3.3 would have been a struggle for you. The requirement is all B+ or better. A 3.3 GPA that all B+ gets the job done but 3.8 GPA with a B does not. See the difference?

DP here. The difference is clear. Bottomline, Kelley wants to make sure the Standard Admit students have a strong foundation in all subject areas, not just a few.

I think that it's dirty business to update requirements after students have accepted. On the flip side, IU pretty much has open admissions, so they clearly need a way to maintain standards. Even direct admission isn't what I would consider overly onerous for the ranking of the business school.

Yes, it's a bit dirty but nothing here that one can fight legally.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...

Your reading comprehension and math skills indicate that a 3.3 would have been a struggle for you. The requirement is all B+ or better. A 3.3 GPA that all B+ gets the job done but 3.8 GPA with a B does not. See the difference?

DP here. The difference is clear. Bottomline, Kelley wants to make sure the Standard Admit students have a strong foundation in all subject areas, not just a few.

I think that it's dirty business to update requirements after students have accepted. On the flip side, IU pretty much has open admissions, so they clearly need a way to maintain standards. Even direct admission isn't what I would consider overly onerous for the ranking of the business school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...

Your reading comprehension and math skills indicate that a 3.3 would have been a struggle for you. The requirement is all B+ or better. A 3.3 GPA that all B+ gets the job done but 3.8 GPA with a B does not. See the difference?

DP here. The difference is clear. Bottomline, Kelley wants to make sure the Standard Admit students have a strong foundation in all subject areas, not just a few.

Anonymous wrote:I'm legitimately considering legal action. DH is a lawyer (civil).

You just want to get there by force. I would recommend your DS switch to Ohio State. If you are panicking over 3.3, you will probably not cut it at Kelley. It is not what you think it is. There are a bunch of cut throat competitors there that can easily hit 3.7-3.8 at Kelley FYI. The whole landscape has been changing and these schools are becoming more competitive than before.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...

Your reading comprehension and math skills indicate that a 3.3 would have been a struggle for you. The requirement is all B+ or better. A 3.3 GPA that all B+ gets the job done but 3.8 GPA with a B does not. See the difference?

Anonymous wrote:3.3 is nothing. Tell him to hit the books.

Everyone wants to study business. Times changed and competition is fierce. If your DS is not a DA at least. Forget it. Remember the DAs at Kelley are the waitlisted at Ross, Stern and Co. So if your DS is a pre business. They won’t be able to compete with the DAs there. I would probably do something else. We are in 2025 so stop complaining if you can’t compete.

I mean, if you can't pull a 3.3 at IU...