Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 08:28     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

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It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.


My child is in 5th rising 6th, so a while until TJ, but I clicked on this thread because I had heard they eliminated the test for TJ and was curious what studying would look like.

If I understand things correctly, I find it to be a bit disconcerting. My child is very strong and interested in STEM. She is in AAP classes and scored advanced in both math and science SOLs. Writing is not and has never been her strong suit. As a STEM magnet school, why aren't they actually looking at how prepared a child is for STEM coursework vs. an essay and lottery system. I must be misunderstanding something, because that is completely asinine.


STEM is accounted for, the kids have to take Honors Science and Math in 7th and 8th grade. They can take Honors English or History but they only need one of those subjects to be honors. They have to have completed Honors Algebra 1 to attend TJ, the vast majority will have completed Geometry. The kids can write about the STEM activities in the essays, I suspect that most do just that. But STEM kids need to understand how to communicate effectively, to include how to write.

You know who makes big money? STEM people who can write and present STEM ideas to non-STEM folks. Those people make a lot of money because they are rare. Writing and public speaking skills are important and will help a STEM kid in life. They are looking for well rounded kids.

My kid is not a great writer; I am using his desire to apply to TJ as the reason to work with a writing tutor this summer. Work with your daughter on her writing. Remind her that knowledge in science and math is great but you have to be able to communicate what you know with people who don't understand what you are talking about. That is why writing is important.



What percentage of the applicant pool for the class of 2024 meet the new criteria to justify elimination of the year as a filter? 5%? 10%? 20%? 50%%. 80?

87.7% of the prior applicant pool meet the criteria and then the test provided an objective merit filter. The new standards are pretty weak tea.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 08:21     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:Completely unscientific, but we are at center school where a large group used the same test prep class. The ones that used the Prep did not get in. The ones that did not, got in. I suspect, everyone wrote the same answer. No original thought process to show you belong at TJ.


You are giving the admissions committee too much credit. They don't cross check 3000 essays looking for similarities. It's pretty random.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 08:12     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:Please excuse the stupidity of my question but I’m not in social circles with many parents of kids interested in pursuing TJ. We don’t have any plans for DC to take courses to prepare, but are there workbooks or sample questions I should get for DC to practice?


It is worthless to prep for TJ admissions. Your kid needs to be enriched and accelerated from the time they have started their schooling. It is not only the content knowledge but the training to be a scholar.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 09:22     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.


My child is in 5th rising 6th, so a while until TJ, but I clicked on this thread because I had heard they eliminated the test for TJ and was curious what studying would look like.

If I understand things correctly, I find it to be a bit disconcerting. My child is very strong and interested in STEM. She is in AAP classes and scored advanced in both math and science SOLs. Writing is not and has never been her strong suit. As a STEM magnet school, why aren't they actually looking at how prepared a child is for STEM coursework vs. an essay and lottery system. I must be misunderstanding something, because that is completely asinine.


STEM is accounted for, the kids have to take Honors Science and Math in 7th and 8th grade. They can take Honors English or History but they only need one of those subjects to be honors. They have to have completed Honors Algebra 1 to attend TJ, the vast majority will have completed Geometry. The kids can write about the STEM activities in the essays, I suspect that most do just that. But STEM kids need to understand how to communicate effectively, to include how to write.

You know who makes big money? STEM people who can write and present STEM ideas to non-STEM folks. Those people make a lot of money because they are rare. Writing and public speaking skills are important and will help a STEM kid in life. They are looking for well rounded kids.

My kid is not a great writer; I am using his desire to apply to TJ as the reason to work with a writing tutor this summer. Work with your daughter on her writing. Remind her that knowledge in science and math is great but you have to be able to communicate what you know with people who don't understand what you are talking about. That is why writing is important.

Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 08:51     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.


My child is in 5th rising 6th, so a while until TJ, but I clicked on this thread because I had heard they eliminated the test for TJ and was curious what studying would look like.

If I understand things correctly, I find it to be a bit disconcerting. My child is very strong and interested in STEM. She is in AAP classes and scored advanced in both math and science SOLs. Writing is not and has never been her strong suit. As a STEM magnet school, why aren't they actually looking at how prepared a child is for STEM coursework vs. an essay and lottery system. I must be misunderstanding something, because that is completely asinine.


Because math is racist.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 17:10     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.


My child is in 5th rising 6th, so a while until TJ, but I clicked on this thread because I had heard they eliminated the test for TJ and was curious what studying would look like.

If I understand things correctly, I find it to be a bit disconcerting. My child is very strong and interested in STEM. She is in AAP classes and scored advanced in both math and science SOLs. Writing is not and has never been her strong suit. As a STEM magnet school, why aren't they actually looking at how prepared a child is for STEM coursework vs. an essay and lottery system. I must be misunderstanding something, because that is completely asinine.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 08:58     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:In retrospect my kid would have made it in had the kid done a prep class. He was waitlisted but we are very confident he would have made it. Nonetheless, not losing sleep over it. [In other words, if you and your kid are really passionate about TJ, then its not a harm to do the prep]


We are working with a writing tutor this summer. It's a win/win from a parent perspective. DS will hopefully improve his writing skills. He hopes to get into TJ, we get to see some improvement in an area he is weak in. Hopefully he has a choice to make in May next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 08:33     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

In retrospect my kid would have made it in had the kid done a prep class. He was waitlisted but we are very confident he would have made it. Nonetheless, not losing sleep over it. [In other words, if you and your kid are really passionate about TJ, then its not a harm to do the prep]
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 07:00     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Completely unscientific, but we are at center school where a large group used the same test prep class. The ones that used the Prep did not get in. The ones that did not, got in. I suspect, everyone wrote the same answer. No original thought process to show you belong at TJ.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 08:37     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. While I appreciate the advice from early elementary on, my kid is a rising 8th grader who has always done very well academically, hence the interest in TJ.

I’m specifically looking for info on whether or not the TJ admissions test is something the majority of students prep for. We’re at a highly competitive MS, so I know many do, but I wasn’t sure if this is a test that students can go in cold and still do well, or if it is recommended/expected that students prep.

From some of these responses, It sounds like DC should spend time thinking about the essays, and google sample questions so they can work on timing. DC has always done fine on timed tests so I’m not overly concerned on that front. Thanks for the input.


Yes, students can definitely prep for the essays. You can go the prep program route or just prepare on your own. All of the students that I know who were accepted to TJ prepared for the essays ahead of time. It is good to have at least a general idea of something to write about that relates to the portrait of a graduate skills.


Makes no sense to prep for essay alone when the preparation should be stem subjects all through middle school to survive at TJ.


It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.

STEM school has no evaluation in STEM readiness?


The STEM bit is covered in the requirements to apply. All students have to be accelerated in math, even if you don't think Algebra 1 in 8th grade is accelerated, it is. Most of the students will have comeplted Geometry or Algebra 2. All of the students will have taken Honors Science for the last two years. I would bet that most of the kids will have taken Engineering or Computer Solutions in MS, although that is not required.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 08:34     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. While I appreciate the advice from early elementary on, my kid is a rising 8th grader who has always done very well academically, hence the interest in TJ.

I’m specifically looking for info on whether or not the TJ admissions test is something the majority of students prep for. We’re at a highly competitive MS, so I know many do, but I wasn’t sure if this is a test that students can go in cold and still do well, or if it is recommended/expected that students prep.

From some of these responses, It sounds like DC should spend time thinking about the essays, and google sample questions so they can work on timing. DC has always done fine on timed tests so I’m not overly concerned on that front. Thanks for the input.


Yes, students can definitely prep for the essays. You can go the prep program route or just prepare on your own. All of the students that I know who were accepted to TJ prepared for the essays ahead of time. It is good to have at least a general idea of something to write about that relates to the portrait of a graduate skills.


Makes no sense to prep for essay alone when the preparation should be stem subjects all through middle school to survive at TJ.


Most of the kids who are applying have been interested in STEM, or have had parents enrolling them in STEM activities, since ES. That part is easy. Writing is not taught well in FCPS and a good number of kids have not practiced writing at home, it is probably the area that kids need the most help improving and it is an easy one to tutor.


Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 08:33     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. While I appreciate the advice from early elementary on, my kid is a rising 8th grader who has always done very well academically, hence the interest in TJ.

I’m specifically looking for info on whether or not the TJ admissions test is something the majority of students prep for. We’re at a highly competitive MS, so I know many do, but I wasn’t sure if this is a test that students can go in cold and still do well, or if it is recommended/expected that students prep.

From some of these responses, It sounds like DC should spend time thinking about the essays, and google sample questions so they can work on timing. DC has always done fine on timed tests so I’m not overly concerned on that front. Thanks for the input.


Yes, students can definitely prep for the essays. You can go the prep program route or just prepare on your own. All of the students that I know who were accepted to TJ prepared for the essays ahead of time. It is good to have at least a general idea of something to write about that relates to the portrait of a graduate skills.


Makes no sense to prep for essay alone when the preparation should be stem subjects all through middle school to survive at TJ.


It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.

STEM school has no evaluation in STEM readiness?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2025 07:34     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. While I appreciate the advice from early elementary on, my kid is a rising 8th grader who has always done very well academically, hence the interest in TJ.

I’m specifically looking for info on whether or not the TJ admissions test is something the majority of students prep for. We’re at a highly competitive MS, so I know many do, but I wasn’t sure if this is a test that students can go in cold and still do well, or if it is recommended/expected that students prep.

From some of these responses, It sounds like DC should spend time thinking about the essays, and google sample questions so they can work on timing. DC has always done fine on timed tests so I’m not overly concerned on that front. Thanks for the input.


Yes, students can definitely prep for the essays. You can go the prep program route or just prepare on your own. All of the students that I know who were accepted to TJ prepared for the essays ahead of time. It is good to have at least a general idea of something to write about that relates to the portrait of a graduate skills.


Makes no sense to prep for essay alone when the preparation should be stem subjects all through middle school to survive at TJ.


It absolutely makes sense if you have an extremely strong STEM student (Honors Algebra II/Pre-calculus level) who is not as strong of a writer. The admissions committee doesn’t look at math levels or have any way of seeing a student’s STEM ability, the only way to get in is to be able to write strong essays.
Anonymous
Post 05/27/2025 22:19     Subject: Are students supposed to prep for TJ admissions exam

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. While I appreciate the advice from early elementary on, my kid is a rising 8th grader who has always done very well academically, hence the interest in TJ.

I’m specifically looking for info on whether or not the TJ admissions test is something the majority of students prep for. We’re at a highly competitive MS, so I know many do, but I wasn’t sure if this is a test that students can go in cold and still do well, or if it is recommended/expected that students prep.

From some of these responses, It sounds like DC should spend time thinking about the essays, and google sample questions so they can work on timing. DC has always done fine on timed tests so I’m not overly concerned on that front. Thanks for the input.


Yes, students can definitely prep for the essays. You can go the prep program route or just prepare on your own. All of the students that I know who were accepted to TJ prepared for the essays ahead of time. It is good to have at least a general idea of something to write about that relates to the portrait of a graduate skills.


Makes no sense to prep for essay alone when the preparation should be stem subjects all through middle school to survive at TJ.