Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:56     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Hard disagree. You can’t cut other countries off from the US and not expect similar treatment. We know a handful of kids from DC who went to college overseas, and a ton who studied and worked abroad. We were expats, not through the government.

Ridiculous to think this is a good idea. Hope you don’t get arrested on your next 3-week vacation in France because they’ve trumped up claims that you were working—which is now happening here.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:55     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



Agree 100 percent. We are sending billions in taxpayer dollars to these schools. That our money. The least they can do is educate our kids instead of future jihadists.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:53     Subject: Re:Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A big MAGA talking point is that foreigners are taking US jobs. It's true - you try getting a job in the Silicon Valley. That is where I'm from, my family lived there until recently but it is literally impossible to compete with H1B visa holders - and now their kids and friends. Even in areas that you don't need tech skills - like marketing - you can't compete. And then competing with foreign students to get into college - there are less spaces for Americans, so there is less opportunity for them and it's a downward spiral.

The universities don't need billions saved in endowments. They can afford to not take foreign money from students.


The reality is you are correct “you can’t compete” because you are not as qualified and you are being out-worked and out-studied by non-US students. We have a whole generation of slackers who would rather get a no value added job at McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, et al rather than study physics and advanced math so that we, the United States, remain #1 in AI and are first to nail quantum computing. Instead, Trump is lowering standards and putting up artificial protection barriers to ensure slackers can make a living. We will suffer for decades because we are globally uncompetitive.

+1. The most popular major in the US is business. Look at this forum and how so many parents want their kids to go to Harvard or some other top tier so that they can make connections with wealthy people to get a job on wall street.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:51     Subject: Re:Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:A big MAGA talking point is that foreigners are taking US jobs. It's true - you try getting a job in the Silicon Valley. That is where I'm from, my family lived there until recently but it is literally impossible to compete with H1B visa holders - and now their kids and friends. Even in areas that you don't need tech skills - like marketing - you can't compete. And then competing with foreign students to get into college - there are less spaces for Americans, so there is less opportunity for them and it's a downward spiral.

The universities don't need billions saved in endowments. They can afford to not take foreign money from students.

Sounds like you want a form of socialism where the government dictates how private organizations are run.

Fwiw I also used to work in the Bay Area. I'm also an American.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:50     Subject: Re:Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:A big MAGA talking point is that foreigners are taking US jobs. It's true - you try getting a job in the Silicon Valley. That is where I'm from, my family lived there until recently but it is literally impossible to compete with H1B visa holders - and now their kids and friends. Even in areas that you don't need tech skills - like marketing - you can't compete. And then competing with foreign students to get into college - there are less spaces for Americans, so there is less opportunity for them and it's a downward spiral.

The universities don't need billions saved in endowments. They can afford to not take foreign money from students.


The reality is you are correct “you can’t compete” because you are not as qualified and you are being out-worked and out-studied by non-US students. We have a whole generation of slackers who would rather get a no value added job at McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, et al rather than study physics and advanced math so that we, the United States, remain #1 in AI and are first to nail quantum computing. Instead, Trump is lowering standards and putting up artificial protection barriers to ensure slackers can make a living. We will suffer for decades because we are globally uncompetitive.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:48     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:The US has benefited hugely from having talent like the founders of google here.

+1. We should not discourage the brightest minds from coming here. I mean.. why did we let Musk in here.

Even if we don't let in foreigners that doesn't mean an American will be the one to find groundbreaking innovation.

One of our greatest strengths has always been the influx of bright foreign students who end up staying and becoming citizens
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:47     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
The international students thing is also a secret way the US would take the best and brightest from other countries. Kids getting into Harvard, a certain percentage end up staying in the US and end up as doctors, engineers, and those kinds of professions. That's pretty much going to be gone now.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:46     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
No
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:45     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:I'm almost positive that the majority of international students at a school like Harvard are graduate students.


Just under 30% of undergrads at Harvard are foreign.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:42     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Went to see how Fox News (on web) was covering the Harvard story and didn't find it. Instead found:

Jessica Biel shares rare glimpse into Montana family life with Justin Timberlake after leaving Hollywood

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jessica-biel-shares-rare-glimpse-montana-family-life-justin-timberlake-after-leaving-hollywood

Sounds like we all need a little more Montana in our lives.


That's because the Harvard story was meant to distract left-leaning media from the Big Beautiful Bill that the GOP just passed. It's not a coincidence that both things happened at the same time. Flood the Zone with news and it drowns out what you don't want them talking about.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:41     Subject: Re:Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
A big MAGA talking point is that foreigners are taking US jobs. It's true - you try getting a job in the Silicon Valley. That is where I'm from, my family lived there until recently but it is literally impossible to compete with H1B visa holders - and now their kids and friends. Even in areas that you don't need tech skills - like marketing - you can't compete. And then competing with foreign students to get into college - there are less spaces for Americans, so there is less opportunity for them and it's a downward spiral.

The universities don't need billions saved in endowments. They can afford to not take foreign money from students.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:36     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
If we can’t recruit the best grad students in the world, then professors will move somewhere that lets us do that. For many of us, it’s the absolute most important thing. A lab is only as good as the people in it.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:36     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Anonymous wrote:He's handing China a huge win. They are becoming the dominant country for research globally. If their best students stay in China, it is good for them long term.


He is handing China wins on so many fronts.

The dismantling of development in electric cars is just insane. China now dominates that industry.

Literally the entire developed world is moving rapidly towards electrification, and we will just be years and years behind.

At some point Europe and Asia will remove every conceivable car barrier because it won’t matter…nobody will buy a gas car anymore.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:31     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
He's handing China a huge win. They are becoming the dominant country for research globally. If their best students stay in China, it is good for them long term.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:28     Subject: Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?
Went to see how Fox News (on web) was covering the Harvard story and didn't find it. Instead found:

Jessica Biel shares rare glimpse into Montana family life with Justin Timberlake after leaving Hollywood

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jessica-biel-shares-rare-glimpse-montana-family-life-justin-timberlake-after-leaving-hollywood

Sounds like we all need a little more Montana in our lives.