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Post 05/24/2025 16:41     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeebus...what happened to Elon and his transparency?


Every time DOGE posted its claims of billions in savings, someone would ask what the savings were and point out that they were wrong about what they think they had saved.

Because the DOGE people largely are not very bright and are pretty careless.


Move Fast and Break Things Dude. If you have one hit and 19 misses, you’re a multimillionaire in Silicon Valley. (or course, in the government, you’ve f—ked over 19 human beings…).
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Post 05/24/2025 13:04     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.


ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.
The hard part of Federal IT isn't the data platforms, it's the billions of lines of poorly documented, custom, run-the-business software written in COBOL and Assembler and business processes that pervade entire agencies that have built up over decades around those systems. Simply catching up would take tens of billions of dollars and would take decades to complete. But DOGE is "saving money" and adding data analytics as if that were the Federal IT modernization problem.
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Post 05/24/2025 09:01     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.


ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.


Ironically one of the very first things they did was kill 18F which was an attempt at starting to solve some of the government IT issues.
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Post 05/24/2025 08:58     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

Well with that statement it sure as h3ll sounds like they’re funneling all the waste, fraud and abuse straight into their pockets. Which is odd, since they’ve otherwise been so open about their grift.
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Post 05/24/2025 08:54     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.


ONLY where it comes to CUI or classified info. But 90% plus of government data is NOT CUI or classified and rightly belongs to the American people and should be getting released, but is still siloed and government struggles to publish it.

And it's siloed and in bad shape because of forced outsourcing of IT sliced and diced across dozens of overpriced private sector contractors who don't work with each other, antiquated systems that haven't been properly modernized because it keeps asses in seats for those expensive contractors, and insufficient in-house IT expertise and resources to bring it all together.

If DOGE were actually competent with IT and making it more efficient, they would have have flagged this and recommended fixing how IT is managed in government, starting with recruitment, training and retention of government IT expertise and investing in modern data platforms.
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Post 05/24/2025 01:45     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


US Govt is supposed to operate in cells to protect sensitive info.
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Post 05/23/2025 21:30     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


Has everyone forgotten the Bret Baier interview. There are lots of senior executives on DOGE.
I think you meant to write Bret Baier's DOGE propaganda piece?
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Post 05/23/2025 21:17     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


Don't you know that starting with Reagan and A-76, a lot of IT expertise in government was forced to be outsourced to contractors? And that many government IT systems are now managed by just one or two feds, while all the money goes out to mediocre, grossly overpriced private sector contractors who have no real incentive to ever fix anything or make it work better, because that would mean less money for them?


Feds are the most overworked, over educated, and understaffed group of professional workers in the country.

It’s so funny to hear maga losers who couldn’t get a fed job in 1000 interviews imply that they won’t work hard. A little earlier today a leak from inside the White House emerged stating that Trump is working LESS THAN AN HOUR A DAY.

Honestly, though, it’s probably better that way.
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Post 05/23/2025 21:05     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


Don't you know that starting with Reagan and A-76, a lot of IT expertise in government was forced to be outsourced to contractors? And that many government IT systems are now managed by just one or two feds, while all the money goes out to mediocre, grossly overpriced private sector contractors who have no real incentive to ever fix anything or make it work better, because that would mean less money for them?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 20:40     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


Has everyone forgotten the Bret Baier interview. There are lots of senior executives on DOGE.
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Post 05/23/2025 20:28     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

Anonymous wrote:Jeebus...what happened to Elon and his transparency?


Every time DOGE posted its claims of billions in savings, someone would ask what the savings were and point out that they were wrong about what they think they had saved.

Because the DOGE people largely are not very bright and are pretty careless.
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Post 05/23/2025 19:00     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


Uh oh, someone couldn’t manage the USAJOBs process.

Keep trying champ, maybe when this is over you can get yourself a real job.
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Post 05/23/2025 18:11     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?


The systems are deliberately siloed, so no one can abuse citizens' information.

Or that was true before January. Now DOGE has collected all the info together so they can know everything about everyone -- and use it against you if they choose.
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Post 05/23/2025 18:09     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


+1 Exactly. Arrogant bros in their late teens/early 20s who have yet to grow up. The human brain isn't even fully developed until age 25. Knowing this, Musk knows he can still mold them into good cocky minions who think they are untouchable.
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Post 05/23/2025 18:01     Subject: Trump Admin tells court that DOGE is a Deep State that must operate in secrecy.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, they aren’t anywhere near as capable as the people they replace. There will be plenty of forensic evidence to convict them later.


I recently heard a computer science professor talking about how some of her best and brightest recent grads were recruited into DOGE and rather than actually using their skills they are finding themselves thrust into positions of HR and reorganization and other stupid DOGE things they don't want to be doing and which don't leverage their skills.


They could have gotten jobs anywhere, but they’ve chosen to go to jail instead?


Naive kids, fresh out of college. They were taught technical skills, but lack deeper understanding beyond that.

That’s typical for CS majors, no?


DOGE could hire experienced people, but it wants newbies without the experience to see how wrong what they are doing is.


DOGE is run by morons. They COULD HAVE worked with GAO, IGs and other organizations which have significant expertise and experience in proper forensic investigation and cost savings. But they didn't. They didn't even seem to know that function already existed.
What did those organizations do before about the 100 different computer systems that can't talk to each other?


What is DOGE doing about it? The 100 different computer systems still can't talk to each other now with DOGE supposedly helping. Oh wait, DOGE isn't helping fix any of that. In fact many agencies are facing 50% budget cuts for IT meaning even fewer systems will be able to talk to each other than before.


Wait, what? Did we just start paying taxes today?

WTF have you govvies been doing for the last 50 years by letting it get to this point? You got your tax payer funds. You've been collecting pay checks. What did you do during that time?

Attend meetings all day and get nothing done?